how many tracks before your first placement?

[cosmicdolphin]

I've been posting yearly updates the past few years if you want to see the results: six-year-update-t148673.html?hilit=5%20year%20update

[GCampbell]

I've been posting yearly updates the past few years if you want to see the results: six-year-update-t148673.html?hilit=5%20year%20update

Wow, that's very interesting. thanks for sharing! Congrats on the increasing placements and kudos for staying so productive!

[GCampbell]

Took me 6 months to get a forward and like 3 to 4 years to get my first placement.

But a lot get placements faster.

I was eager to fail fast and often as I knew the faster I failed the closer I would be to success.

Good luck
All the best!

Seems like you're in the right head space! At my current rate, I think I'll be 100 years old before I get my first placement, lol.

[cosmicdolphin]

I've been posting yearly updates the past few years if you want to see the results: six-year-update-t148673.html?hilit=5%20year%20update

Wow, that's very interesting. thanks for sharing! Congrats on the increasing placements and kudos for staying so productive!

No worries, will update again at the end of the year

[markhimley]

How many signed before I got placements? - For me it took 12 tracks to get my first placements. I signed my first deal in August (I think) of 2017 and signed a 12 track album as my first batch. Within ~2-3 months of that album getting released the placements started rolling in and it only picked up from there. Everyone's experience will be vastly different.

If the question was phrased differently.. How many tracks written before getting placements? Probably 100+.

Some great advice and tips listed above.

My advice:

- Focus on making great music and work with great companies/publishers.

- Keep in mind it's a marathon, not a sprint.

- Do your research. Watch TV/Ads/Films/Trailers or whatever your target is. Find the publishers that supply those end clients. Study their catalogs. Study some more. Use reference tracks and do your best to create something that would fit in their catalog. Be very intentional and begin with the end in mind. Taxi listings are a great form of research and practice as well.

- Make friends in this industry and learn from those further ahead than you. You can save LOTS of time by learning from other peoples' mistakes.

- Be a nice person. It's a small industry. Nobody wants to work with a jerk or someone who's entitled, or worse yet someone who makes their life harder in any way. I.e. don't use samples and loops and pass it off as your own music.

- Write, submit, forget, repeat

Hopefully that's helpful, just a few things that came to mind when reading this post.

Cheers on your success so far and wishing you all the best

[GCampbell]

If the question was phrased differently.. How many tracks written before getting placements? Probably 100+.

Thanks Mark, I appreciate the words of wisdom! Also a good point you make here. And congrats on getting placements so quickly on your first album. My mighty 13 tracks are spread across 6 albums, I don't know if it's more advantageous to be doing entire albums. I guess since I'm mostly writing to Taxi briefs, the forwards usually end up being included on an album with a bunch of composers. I suppose the next step for me is to continue to work with the libraries I'm in and pitch full albums to them somewhere down the road.

[GCampbell]

Well folks, I'm happy to report that I got my first tunesat detection today. So I guess my answer to my own question is 13 (haven't signed any new tracks since starting this thread).

The library hasn't registered the track yet, to my knowledge. From what I've read in the forum this is nothing to be concerned about, but should I at some point send them a message? If they're giving out blanket licenses, they might not be aware that the track was placed, no? Or am I just being overly eager?

[cosmicdolphin]

Well folks, I'm happy to report that I got my first tunesat detection today. So I guess my answer to my own question is 13 (haven't signed any new tracks since starting this thread).

The library hasn't registered the track yet, to my knowledge. From what I've read in the forum this is nothing to be concerned about, but should I at some point send them a message? If they're giving out blanket licenses, they might not be aware that the track was placed, no? Or am I just being overly eager?

Congrats ! - Good going to get a Tunesat detection already, wow. I'm sure it was a fair bit more than 13 for me. In fact I think the first few detections I had wasn't my track at all but I'd used a popular loop from Damage and it was flagging up false positives ! I ended up taking that track out of my Tunesat account to make it stop.

Personally I wouldn't bother the library as they will get notified, you don't need to tell them ( unless nothing turns up at your PRO after a couple of years )

Mark

[GCampbell]

Well folks, I'm happy to report that I got my first tunesat detection today. So I guess my answer to my own question is 13 (haven't signed any new tracks since starting this thread).

The library hasn't registered the track yet, to my knowledge. From what I've read in the forum this is nothing to be concerned about, but should I at some point send them a message? If they're giving out blanket licenses, they might not be aware that the track was placed, no? Or am I just being overly eager?

Congrats ! - Good going to get a Tunesat detection already, wow. I'm sure it was a fair bit more than 13 for me. In fact I think the first few detections I had wasn't my track at all but I'd used a popular loop from Damage and it was flagging up false positives ! I ended up taking that track out of my Tunesat account to make it stop.

Personally I wouldn't bother the library as they will get notified, you don't need to tell them ( unless nothing turns up at your PRO after a couple of years )

Mark

Well I guess it could be a while before I see my next detection, but at least I have one in the bag to use for motivation. I didn't realize tunesat actually gives you the clip, very cool. My track interrupts a Coldplay song for 12 seconds, haha. The voice over is in German so I have no idea what they're saying. I find it all very amusing. Thanks again for chiming in on my questions.

Graham

[cosmicdolphin]

Well I guess it could be a while before I see my next detection, but at least I have one in the bag to use for motivation. I didn't realize tunesat actually gives you the clip, very cool. My track interrupts a Coldplay song for 12 seconds, haha. The voice over is in German so I have no idea what they're saying. I find it all very amusing. Thanks again for chiming in on my questions.

You should get paid an extra bonus for making Coldplay stop

If you're really interested there are some voice translation apps you can get for smartphones that will give you an idea of what's been said. The majority of my placements are on German TV, there's quite a lot of channels but the best 2 to get on are ARD Das Erste and RTL as they have the highest royalty rates.