I'm Not There--Dylan

[jchitty]

Jun 6, 2008, 8:41am, liamkelly wrote:Jun 6, 2008, 5:32am, jchitty wrote:I just happened across this on You Tube the other day....I haven't listened to it in a long time, but I'm wondering if "Tangled Up in Blue" could give "Like a Rolling Stone" a run for its money as far as the best Dylan song goes:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn3iybtxNZwHmm.. Chits. That's a big question for sure Just Like A Woman and Jokerman come very close to Like A Rolling Stone for me. Close.. but no cigar LiamAh, Liam, great song...."Just Like A Woman" is one of Dylan's more romantic songs.....maybe it's the Irish in you? Just kidding, my husband is half Irish, (his mother is a Kelly, maybe you're related) and I tease him about the Irish having romance in their souls. Yeah, Dave, I'm like that way too....if I know someone really well, then I'm fairly extroverted, but if I'm in a crowd of folks I don't know, it takes me a while to warm up. It's strange though, my friends always tell me that I'm an extrovert, but I don't see it. Hey, Jeff, I'd like to check out the soundtrack to the movie too. That's something I didn't think about. Thanks for reminding me.

[jchitty]

Are there any ladies here who like Dylan?

[jchitty]

Dylan endorses Barack Obama. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id ... page=1Well maybe.

[bc]

Just the mention of Kate Blanchett on an internet board is like an irresistible pheromone cache -- enough to entice me to put down my quill for a moment of social indulgence. She was intoxicating as Dylan.As for Dylan and Obama, I doubt it's an endorsement so much as hopeful prose. (Personally I always get a good buzz on hope. And I like to share it too.) ABC News "In a 2006 interview with Jann Wenner in Rolling Stone, Dylan was prompted to weigh in on contemporary politics. Here's how the exchange went, according to the magazine:"Wenner: What do you think of the historical moment we're in today? We seem to be hellbent on destruction. Do you worry about global warming?Dylan: Where's the global warming? It's freezing here.Wenner: It seems a pretty frightening outlook.Dylan: I think what you're driving at, though, is we expect politicians to solve all our problems. I don't expect politicians to solve anybody's problems.Wenner: Who is going to solve them?Dylan: Our own selves. We've got to take the world by the horns and solve our own problems. The world owes us nothing, each and every one of us, the world owes us not one single thing. Politicians or whoever." Dylan's coy brilliance didn't set well with the interviewer's agenda. In fact I don't think he meant to discount the truth of global warming, but instead artfully nuanced the truth of this issue: We, each one of us, every day, have the personal responsibility to invoke stewardship of our planet. I've been driving 59 mph to and from all my gigs these days. With all the epitaphs being hurled at politicians and OPEC, one would think the flow of traffic (here in Michigan) would correlate with the rhetoric.It doesn't. Pods of cars and trucks pass me like I'm standing still. Many with Obama or Hillary or McCain bumper stickers. Dylan's words pass the common sense test for this ol' country boy. If you're griping about gas prices; global warming etc... look in the mirror and tell the real perpetrator that you're going to do something about it besides engaging in self-protecting and always popular blame games. When is the last time you saw an activist at the soup kitchen? They show up for photo ops at our state capitol...but NEVER seen one yet at the local Mission/Soup kitchen. Nope, it's those dang blasted Christians giving, not only their money, but their precious time to provide hands-on help for the poor. Anyway, new bumper sticker idea: Slow down or quit b!#chin' Back to the quill...

[silvercord]

Hey Bc..thanks for your post.I admire Dylan for expressing what he did.being a fellow Michigander..i know what its like to be blown past on the road. and also to be a victim of road rage because of it;)(now being in Seoul makes Michigan pale in comparison..sothe roads of Michigan were a good trainer no bumper sticker on the back of my cyclejust the bass strapped to my back of your fellow country spacerock boy from Michigan takin' his sweet ole time on the road~back to the needle(sewing that is;)thanks again, bc!peace,geoff

[jchitty]

Jun 9, 2008, 11:50am, bc wrote:Just the mention of Kate Blanchett on an internet board is like an irresistible pheromone cache -- enough to entice me to put down my quill for a moment of social indulgence. She was intoxicating as Dylan.As for Dylan and Obama, I doubt it's an endorsement so much as hopeful prose. (Personally I always get a good buzz on hope. And I like to share it too.) ABC News "In a 2006 interview with Jann Wenner in Rolling Stone, Dylan was prompted to weigh in on contemporary politics. Here's how the exchange went, according to the magazine:"Wenner: What do you think of the historical moment we're in today? We seem to be hellbent on destruction. Do you worry about global warming?Dylan: Where's the global warming? It's freezing here.Wenner: It seems a pretty frightening outlook.Dylan: I think what you're driving at, though, is we expect politicians to solve all our problems. I don't expect politicians to solve anybody's problems.Wenner: Who is going to solve them?Dylan: Our own selves. We've got to take the world by the horns and solve our own problems. The world owes us nothing, each and every one of us, the world owes us not one single thing. Politicians or whoever." Dylan's coy brilliance didn't set well with the interviewer's agenda. In fact I don't think he meant to discount the truth of global warming, but instead artfully nuanced the truth of this issue: We, each one of us, every day, have the personal responsibility to invoke stewardship of our planet. I've been driving 59 mph to and from all my gigs these days. With all the epitaphs being hurled at politicians and OPEC, one would think the flow of traffic (here in Michigan) would correlate with the rhetoric.It doesn't. Pods of cars and trucks pass me like I'm standing still. Many with Obama or Hillary or McCain bumper stickers. Dylan's words pass the common sense test for this ol' country boy. If you're griping about gas prices; global warming etc... look in the mirror and tell the real perpetrator that you're going to do something about it besides engaging in self-protecting and always popular blame games. When is the last time you saw an activist at the soup kitchen? They show up for photo ops at our state capitol...but NEVER seen one yet at the local Mission/Soup kitchen. Nope, it's those dang blasted Christians giving, not only their money, but their precious time to provide hands-on help for the poor. Anyway, new bumper sticker idea: Slow down or quit b!#chin' Back to the quill...Hey, thanks for your thoughts, BC. You know, I'll agree with Dylan on one thing....I see him as totally apolitical, and that's where my head is at lately. You can vote people in office who'll you think will help the country, but the bottom line is that it does truly all come down to you. When you realize that you alone control your destiny, well, that's half the battle.

[bc]

geoff - I'll bet Seoul has changed since my, ah, mmm, excursions there. 'Spent a lifetime in northern South Korea one year (Camp Casey up near Freedom Bridge) -- a world apart from the foul air of Seoul. The rural culture reminded me of my hard working humble peeps back in dirt farm country. To this day I can hear their voices (ahnya hashi BC -- ahnya hashi Oma!) and music and smell the fresh baked local feline or canine additions to eggs and rice and kimchi and White Horse beer. Big time culture shock for this dog lover.Their urban culture, as with ours, parrots green-speak, but has little manifested interest the personal sacrifice it takes to get clean air.chits - Dylan is probably sophisticated and intelligent enough to see through the hypocrisy of the media elite's affectation with finger pointing whilst ignoring their own complicity in the destruction of our planet. best,bc

[mojobone]

Well, Dylan, though undeniably great, has never been my lodestar. For me, it was Arlo Guthrie.