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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by Paulie » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:03 am

Just for grins I counted up all of the current listings, there are 66 open at the moment.
  • 20 x pop
  • 6 x country
  • 2 x electronic
  • 3 x singer/songwriter
  • 7 x R&B/soul
  • 2 x Rap/hip hop
  • 13 x instrumental
  • 3 x Latin
  • 3 x world/ethnic
  • 1 x folk
  • 3 x vintage
  • 1 x funk
  • 1 x Adult contemporary
  • 1 x hard to classify
So yes, the largest category of listings is Pop, with nearly a third of them. But that means two thirds are not pop, unless you consider country, electronic, singer/songwriter, R&B/soul, funk and adult contemporary as Pop, which make up 23 of the 66. so, depending on your definition, there could be 43 of the 66 considered Pop. But this is all water under the bridge. :) Write to your strengths, Taxi is just one tool of many that can help composers get their music into libraries and on tv. :)
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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by JonathanEarthenMusic » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:18 am

Paulie wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:03 am
Write to your strengths, Taxi is just one tool of many that can help composers get their music into libraries and on tv. :)
I very much agree, thanks for the breakdown Paulie, good summary

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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by Paulie » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:37 pm

And from the "Good Timing" category, I just saw a facebook post from Taxi with a link to a list of their posts by category for the year. ;) There were 1,349 total for the year with 280 pop, but the biggest category being Instrumental with 317 (which includes a wide variety of genres).

https://www.taxi.com/past_listings/adult%20contemporary
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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by Casey H » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:47 pm

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I think it's constantly filled with awful Country Music requests which I dislike with a passion and wish the entire loathsome cheesy POS genre could be jettisoned into the bowels of Hades and everytime someone mentioned the word Nashville we were allowed to remotely tazer them to their knees.
But tell us how you REALLY feel! :lol:

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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by cosmicdolphin » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:09 pm

Casey H wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:47 pm
cosmicdolphin wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:12 pm
I think it's constantly filled with awful Country Music requests which I dislike with a passion and wish the entire loathsome cheesy POS genre could be jettisoned into the bowels of Hades and everytime someone mentioned the word Nashville we were allowed to remotely tazer them to their knees.
But tell us how you REALLY feel! :lol:
I can't - I'd get banned :lol:

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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by JonathanEarthenMusic » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:47 am

Paulie wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:37 pm
And from the "Good Timing" category, I just saw a facebook post from Taxi with a link to a list of their posts by category for the year. ;) There were 1,349 total for the year with 280 pop, but the biggest category being Instrumental with 317 (which includes a wide variety of genres).

https://www.taxi.com/past_listings/adult%20contemporary
Serendipitous! Thanks!

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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by JonathanEarthenMusic » Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:32 am

Paulie wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:03 am
Just for grins I counted up all of the current listings, there are 66 open at the moment.
  • 20 x pop
  • 6 x country
  • 2 x electronic
  • 3 x singer/songwriter
  • 7 x R&B/soul
  • 2 x Rap/hip hop
  • 13 x instrumental
  • 3 x Latin
  • 3 x world/ethnic
  • 1 x folk
  • 3 x vintage
  • 1 x funk
  • 1 x Adult contemporary
  • 1 x hard to classify
So yes, the largest category of listings is Pop, with nearly a third of them. But that means two thirds are not pop, unless you consider country, electronic, singer/songwriter, R&B/soul, funk and adult contemporary as Pop, which make up 23 of the 66. so, depending on your definition, there could be 43 of the 66 considered Pop. But this is all water under the bridge. :) Write to your strengths, Taxi is just one tool of many that can help composers get their music into libraries and on tv. :)
I've gotta say Paulie... the requests for the past while have had a LOT of non pop requests... so I considered myself corrected! Thanks very much for your thoughts :-D

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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by Casey H » Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:42 pm

As been said, "pop" includes a wide variety of sub-genres. Some libraries even categorize singer-songwriter under pop. But there is Pop/Rock, Pop/RnB, Urban Pop, Pop/Folk, Dance Pop, Pop/Singer-Songwriter, Popcorn (kidding), and so many. :D Listen to the reference tracks on the listings.

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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by Casey H » Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:57 pm

Telefunkin wrote:
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So, if you get your pie chart what will you do with it? Will it drive you to do anything different or will you continue to do the same (in which case it served no purpose)?
Maybe eat some humble pie? :lol: :lol: (Just joshing around :P )

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Re: If you refuse to do POP...

Post by JonathanEarthenMusic » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:00 am

Telefunkin wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:06 am
Telefunkin wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:37 pm
So, if you get your pie chart what will you do with it? Will it drive you to do anything different or will you continue to do the same (in which case it served no purpose)?
Sorry if that sounds a bit aggressive, and that certainly wasn't my intention. Actually, I congratulate you for making the observation in the first place. My point was that your post title suggests you're pretty resolute about not being interested in pop music, so no amount of stats analysis would change that. Paulie took the time to provide a snapshot of the current genre distribution and the info for that is there for anyone to do the same, but did it help and have you modified your plans as a consequence?

Taking a much wider view, if you keep hearing music on TV and think 'I could do that' then you're in a much better position than if you make music in styles that rarely show up. However, there's a place for just about anything of broadcast quality. The challenge is to find the opportunities, and Taxi is still a great place to do that, as well as finding collaborators to broaden your chances.
I definitely stand corrected on the listings having mostly pop, things have been very different lately. And also too, I think it is true that I have had a too narrow view of what "pop" is, and I tend to gloss over those listings. I have actually made songs now that are considered (partially) "pop", but I would have never considered them that before myself.

So actually, I would delete this posting if I could... doesn't seem to have an option to? I have gotten my pie chart, and it has indeed motivated me to change and produce a lot more, and I definitely stand totally corrected, especially realizing that my definition of "pop" was not how the industry always uses it, and I had written this at a time that seemed that mostly what was coming in was just one thing (and I was wrong about that).

So my apologies! And thanks everyone for your thoughts!

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