LASS vs Hollywood Strings

[guitaroboe]

Hey Chuck,
Mazz has it for sure. I downloaded it but haven't used it yet. Still auditioning Cinebrass!
Adonis

[fusilierb]

Does anyone have the sordino expansion?

Chuck

I think Mazz just downloaded that recently.

[mazz]

Does anyone have the sordino expansion?

Chuck

C'mon Chuck, how long have we known each other? You should know by now to just ask me directly!

I called it up for a minute the other night. Sounds great. Can't wait to layer it with the regular Legatos for that buttery smooth sound!

[crs7string]

Does anyone have the sordino expansion?

Chuck

C'mon Chuck, how long have we known each other? You should know by now to just ask me directly!

I called it up for a minute the other night. Sounds great. Can't wait to layer it with the regular Legatos for that buttery smooth sound!

Mazz,

I was under the misguided and false assumption that you had your GAS under control.

Chuck

[guitaroboe]

nice one Chuck!!

A.

[kclements]

Has anyone really ever found a cure for GAS - I try to eat right, throw away my sweetwater catalogs, exercise, ban certain websites from my computer, and I still suffer from maximus GAS-imus

kc

[mazz]

Does anyone have the sordino expansion?

Chuck

C'mon Chuck, how long have we known each other? You should know by now to just ask me directly!

I called it up for a minute the other night. Sounds great. Can't wait to layer it with the regular Legatos for that buttery smooth sound!

Mazz,

I was under the misguided and false assumption that you had your GAS under control.

Chuck

Don't ever trust an addict!!

[fusilierb]

The only other Divisi library that I know of is DVZ by Audio Impressions but when it first came out it was WAY expensive so I never considered it. They just lowered the price nearer to LASS and HS so it might be a viable option. But DVZ also pretty much needs a dedicated computer because of the heavy scripting it utilizes to create it's Divisi implementation.

I've got to be honest. The DVZ strings blew me away when I saw the videos of it. I've heard a lot of people say it sounds synthy, and I can hear that at times. But wow! That's the way a string library should work. Load em ALL up at once, move em where you want and control them at will. I'm getting really tired of loading a million different patches just to catch all the articulations and bouncing around between tracks on a sometimes note for note basis. From what I've seen both Hollywood strings and LASS are based around that metaphor also.

But when I saw the DVZ demo of the horror piece and saw all those techniques being driven from one huge patch. I had to go to the hospital to have my jaw put back on.

[matto]

Bryan,

I know what you mean...the DVZ demo looks really impressive. I'm just not liking the sound of it. None of the demos I've heard done with it have done anything for me on an emotional level the way some of the HS or many of the LASS demos do.

And if the sound isn't doing it for me I really don't care how easy it is to work with. In the end it's all about the sound. It's strings after all. If they can't bring tears to someone's eyes what's the point?

I'm not sure if the DVZ method of recording each pair of players individually and "modeling the ensemble", so to speak, has something to do with the, to me, unsatisfactory sound. Because of course string players will play differently when part of a section than when playing solo. You get maximum flexibility with that approach but maybe you lose some of that "section magic". Perhaps the reason LASS works so well is that there were still sections being recorded (apart from the first chair), so you gain some flexibility while retaining the magic. But that's really just a guess.

Maybe what we are coming up against here are the current limits of technology. Maybe as with sampling vs physical modeling, you can either have complete flexibility but you lose out on the human, emotional element, or vice versa.
I know we all would like to 'just play' and have it sound 'mahvelous dahling' instead of dealing with keyswitches, tracks and controller editing...but I guess we're just not there yet. Although we are getting closer every day, with some of the scripting in Kontakt leading the way to bridging the aforementioned gap.
I feel LASS is a step forward in this regard, I feel that thanks to the programming and scripting I can get a better, more believable sound with fewer tracks than I could before. So there is some progress being made at least...

[Kolstad]

This thread stinks!