Listing Genre: In The Rain

[renips]

http://www.taximusic.com/hosting/home.p ... rkspinnerI would appreciate those of you kind enough to listen to "In The Rain" at the above link and give me your opinion on what listing genre the song would fit into. Also if anyone has any opinions on what a la's the style may be like then I would be interested in your opinion. Thanks In The RainWritten by Mark SpinnerI don't want to go homeI think I'd rather be aloneI don't want to play outside in the rainSimple things just don't seem right in the rainIt’s just a glitch tonightI don't want to stay and fightI'll just leaveAgain and AgainI don't want to play outside in the rainSimple things just don't seem right in the rainSometimes I'd play the partIt was always clever artI'd agreeTo disagreeLate at night I'd driveIn my carI'd think about the simple truthsIt occurred to meOne dark nightI had a choiceI would surviveNow I want to go homeI'm never really aloneNow I want to play outside in the rainSimple things seem really right in the rainI just really want to sayWhy don't we just go and playIn the rainAgain and AgainNow I want to play outside in the rainSimple things seem really right in the rainI just really want to sayWhy don't we just go and playIn the rainAgain and Again

[Kolstad]

Hmm, it's a hard one Mark. I would say it sounds like an Ozzy song, but the drum loop and the clean rhythm suggests something pop'ish. The chimes really threw me out.It sounds like you really want the music to match the rain theme in the lyrics. And I think the drums and the rhythm does, maybe even the chimes, but then the vocals and the lead guitar pulls me out of it.I think you need to decide what you want this to sound like. Either pop, have another singer on and swap the lead guit for something synthy, a pad and some leads ect. Or take it in the rock domain, and find some beefy drums, take out the chimes, and perhaps still get a pad or some synths in there to work the rain theme, and/or perhaps some hard rhythm guitars.Just my2c's, anyway.

[stevereedmusic]

Hi MarkI listened three times, I agree a lot with Magne. The intro was nice but then the two octave vocals coming in seemed too much of a contrast with it.I like the melody/harmony on these lines:'I don't want to play outside in the rainSimple things just don't seem right in the rain'And I can hear the Ozzy vibe with the way the vocals are now. If you go in that direction I too think you have to lose the drum loop because it got monotonous for me after a while, however as Magne says it could possibly work if you take the song in a different direction -This is just my opinion but I could see it as an ambient/chill-out track, maybe something like Royksopp, in which case I would perhaps slow it down a touch, give it a softer treatment on the vocal, lose the double-octaving and just keep the harmonies on the above lines, as the main focal point of the song.I don't know if this is quite what you were after and you had specifically asked about genre and a las, but this is what jumped out at me as I listened over. To answer the questions, I would say the closest a la is maybe ballad-Ozzy ('We're Going Through Changes'...) and genre I would say is too difficult to pigeonhole in its current format.Hope this helps a little!Steve

[len123]

The song reminded me of Boz Scaggs, adult contemporary maybe, or pop? I never really knew what the Boz was, I think he progressed, I always just looked under S for his albums.

[feaker]

nipperLiked the singer/harmonies.Sound was pretty good, but the rhythm guitar almost needs a change off and on. The chorus sound of that guitar was good, but got to me by the end.Production was pretty good and the lead guitar was more than decent.I just never really got connected to the song.This old mind does not process complex anything anymore.Good luck and thanks for postingPaul

[ideascapes]

Mark,I can't think of an "a la", but I'd say '80s pop for the genre.You didn't ask for comments on production, but I'll toss in that this mix sounded a bit compressed. I think Paul noted a similar thing when he said the guitar needed a break. The constant drum pattern probably also contributed to the lack of dynamics.If you want to take it in a different direction, I like Steve's ideas, but based on your web site, it seems this song is done and ready for release.Hope this helps and good luck!Vince

[renips]

Thanks to all who have given me their thoughts. The song is not finalized and I will duly note all of the suggestions. Thanks manMark

[Casey H]

Dec 4, 2009, 11:33am, renips wrote:http://www.taximusic.com/hosting/home.p ... rkspinnerI would appreciate those of you kind enough to listen to "In The Rain" at the above link and give me your opinion on what listing genre the song would fit into. Also if anyone has any opinions on what a la's the style may be like then I would be interested in your opinion. Thanks In The RainWritten by Mark SpinnerI don't want to go homeI think I'd rather be aloneI don't want to play outside in the rainSimple things just don't seem right in the rainIt’s just a glitch tonightI don't want to stay and fightI'll just leaveAgain and AgainI don't want to play outside in the rainSimple things just don't seem right in the rainSometimes I'd play the partIt was always clever artI'd agreeTo disagreeLate at night I'd driveIn my carI'd think about the simple truthsIt occurred to meOne dark nightI had a choiceI would surviveNow I want to go homeI'm never really aloneNow I want to play outside in the rainSimple things seem really right in the rainI just really want to sayWhy don't we just go and playIn the rainAgain and AgainNow I want to play outside in the rainSimple things seem really right in the rainI just really want to sayWhy don't we just go and playIn the rainAgain and AgainHi MarkYou grew up in Queens... Brooklyn here... The first thing that struck me when I listened is your lead guitar licks are a little Santana-like (late 60's/early 70's). And there is a touch of Latin vibe going on. So, one wild-ass idea would be to target a Santana sound-like. This is a wild suggestion & may be too far off what you had in mind. To go the Santana route, it probably would have to go a little darker- maybe more minor chords and sadder melody. The lyrics might also need a little darker edge too... More of those guitar licks- those are pretty good! Maybe spend time studying "Black Magic Woman" and see if you can target a replacement.On the lyrics, I didn't get the "glitch" line. In the bridge you say you say "Late at night I'd drive" and then pause and say "in my car"... That makes "in my car" superfluous. "I would survive" seems like an awkward change of tense (e.g. "would"). In general, the shifting in time of a story is hard to pull off, especially in rock/pop. I think you should make it have a very consistent POV as to where in time you are (one time POV) and be careful on the pronouns to that regard. It doesn't have to be perfect as far as pronouns-- rock is sometimes forgiving, but for the most part it should be consistent. (Better to err on the safe side anyway).Once again, my general idea might be too far off for you. But I'd definitely work on the lyrics.Good luck! Casey

[renips]

Yesterday at 7:39am, hurowitz wrote:Dec 4, 2009, 11:33am, renips wrote:http://www.taximusic.com/hosting/home.p ... rkspinnerI would appreciate those of you kind enough to listen to "In The Rain" at the above link and give me your opinion on what listing genre the song would fit into. Also if anyone has any opinions on what a la's the style may be like then I would be interested in your opinion. Thanks In The RainWritten by Mark SpinnerI don't want to go homeI think I'd rather be aloneI don't want to play outside in the rainSimple things just don't seem right in the rainIt’s just a glitch tonightI don't want to stay and fightI'll just leaveAgain and AgainI don't want to play outside in the rainSimple things just don't seem right in the rainSometimes I'd play the partIt was always clever artI'd agreeTo disagreeLate at night I'd driveIn my carI'd think about the simple truthsIt occurred to meOne dark nightI had a choiceI would surviveNow I want to go homeI'm never really aloneNow I want to play outside in the rainSimple things seem really right in the rainI just really want to sayWhy don't we just go and playIn the rainAgain and AgainNow I want to play outside in the rainSimple things seem really right in the rainI just really want to sayWhy don't we just go and playIn the rainAgain and AgainHi MarkYou grew up in Queens... Brooklyn here... The first thing that struck me when I listened is your lead guitar licks are a little Santana-like (late 60's/early 70's). And there is a touch of Latin vibe going on. So, one wild-ass idea would be to target a Santana sound-like. This is a wild suggestion & may be too far off what you had in mind. To go the Santana route, it probably would have to go a little darker- maybe more minor chords and sadder melody. The lyrics might also need a little darker edge too... More of those guitar licks- those are pretty good! Maybe spend time studying "Black Magic Woman" and see if you can target a replacement.On the lyrics, I didn't get the "glitch" line. In the bridge you say you say "Late at night I'd drive" and then pause and say "in my car"... That makes "in my car" superfluous. "I would survive" seems like an awkward change of tense (e.g. "would"). In general, the shifting in time of a story is hard to pull off, especially in rock/pop. I think you should make it have a very consistent POV as to where in time you are (one time POV) and be careful on the pronouns to that regard. It doesn't have to be perfect as far as pronouns-- rock is sometimes forgiving, but for the most part it should be consistent. (Better to err on the safe side anyway).Once again, my general idea might be too far off for you. But I'd definitely work on the lyrics.Good luck! CaseyThanks Casey. Glitch? The original line was "You're just a bitch tonight" Someone convinced me to change it for all of the wrong reasons. I think I will go back to that original line. By the way I hope if you follow baseball you are a MET fan