Listing Y06062980 results

[timejunkie]

Hi everyone! I submitted 2 songs for this listing and did not get forwarded. Unfortunately, it was a no critique listing so I don't know the reason(s). I normally would not question the results (there's always another listing) however as far as writing style it really doesn't get more 80's than what I write. So Iwas a little suprised by the result.Anyway...to get to the point, my question or concern is that my "production" skills may not be what they should be and that may have been the reason for not being forwarded. That was my main concern about joining Taxi to begin with.Below is the details of the listing and you can hear the songs I submitted (Jaded & Heart Reaction) at my web site www.chipgallmusic.com or www.broadjam.com/chipgallmusicI would be greatful if someone could give me some insight as to why I may have not received a forward on this one. Thanks in advance for your support and input!Original 1980s SONGS & INSTRUMENTALS IN ALL GENRES [either recorded in the 1980s or on the mark style-wise -- think New Wave, Goth Rock, Punk, Adult Contemporary, Metal, College Rock, etc.] are needed by: Film, TV, and Advert. Music w/ 50/50 SPLIT + YOU KEEP ALL YOUR COPYRIGHTS with this NON-EXCLUSIVE Placement Company being started by veterans of that industry. The CEO of this company is a close friend of Michael Laskow's, and is very selective...so TAXI's bar is very high for this listing! They are looking for master quality songs; only the best will be selected...It's QUALITY not quantity, so this will be a huge opportunity for those who are chosen. Please submit one to three songs online or per CD, include lyrics. All submissions will be screened on a YES/NO BASIS ONLY -- NO CRITIQUES FROM TAXI. For ground submissions, please enclose a S.A.S.E. if you would like a response. Submissions must be received no later than June 29, 2006.TAXI # Y06062980

[Casey H]

Quote:Hi everyone! I submitted 2 songs for this listing and did not get forwarded. Unfortunately, it was a no critique listing so I don't know the reason(s). I normally would not question the results (there's always another listing) however as far as writing style it really doesn't get more 80's than what I write. So I was a little surprised by the result.Anyway...to get to the point, my question or concern is that my "production" skills may not be what they should be and that may have been the reason for not being forwarded. That was my main concern about joining Taxi to begin with.Below is the details of the listing and you can hear the songs I submitted (Jaded & Heart Reaction) at my web site www.chipgallmusic.com or www.broadjam.com/chipgallmusicI would be grateful if someone could give me some insight as to why I may have not received a forward on this one. Thanks in advance for your support and input!Original 1980s SONGS & INSTRUMENTALS IN ALL GENRES [either recorded in the 1980s or on the mark style-wise -- think New Wave, Goth Rock, Punk, Adult Contemporary, Metal, College Rock, etc.] are needed by: Film, TV, and Advert. Music w/ 50/50 SPLIT + YOU KEEP ALL YOUR COPYRIGHTS with this NON-EXCLUSIVE Placement Company being started by veterans of that industry. The CEO of this company is a close friend of Michael Laskow's, and is very selective...so TAXI's bar is very high for this listing! They are looking for master quality songs; only the best will be selected...It's QUALITY not quantity, so this will be a huge opportunity for those who are chosen. Please submit one to three songs online or per CD, include lyrics. All submissions will be screened on a YES/NO BASIS ONLY -- NO CRITIQUES FROM TAXI. For ground submissions, please enclose a S.A.S.E. if you would like a response. Submissions must be received no later than June 29, 2006.TAXI # Y06062980Hey ChipThe key here is what is underlined above. The bar was very high on this listing and production/engineering seemed to be the biggest factor. It does say that only the very best will be selected. I think your tracks are great but I am not qualified to judge the engineering, once it past the point of at least "very good". My ear doesn't hear anything wrong.Maybe others with better engineering expertise can comment. Also, don't be discouraged. The songs are definitely good enough to find a home somewhere in film/TV. They are great replacement tracks for 80's tunes. Keep plugging away. All the best, Casey

[Casey H]

Quote:I just listened to Heart Reaction and I think it's a good song and fits the listing well. It scares me that if a song like that does not get a forward, then what is the point of all of this. I know it would be very time consuming, but TAXI should have a 2 out of 3 policy. Each song gets 3 screeners if two give it a thumbs up for a listing, then it gets forwarded. TAXI's reaction would be time and money won't allow that kind of attention, but at $300 for a membership fee and $5 per listing (100 X $5 = 500), most people are looking to spend close to $1000 a year on hear trying to get heard. I say you should call TAXI and at least inquire about your songs. They seemed to be on the mark for 80's style music, especially for film or TV. I grew up on 80's rock and although it's not the Poison/Hairband sound, it's definitely the sound of many songs that were on big movies such as Can't Buy Me Love and such. Keep trying man. I'm no screener, but I give you thumbs up. I think as far as these tracks not being forwarded, toncart, you may me missing one point-- this listing specifically said there was a very high bar on this one and that they would be very picky. If this listing did not have such as high bar, then it might be different as I agree with you on the quality of the tracks.I do not defend TAXI all the time and I am not even a member right now. But the 2 out of 3 thing would obviously increase their cost and turn around time dramatically. It's just not practical.I agree that Chip should contact TAXI and see if he can find out more about why these tracks didn't make it. Sometimes, YES/NO listings are not even reviewed by TAXI screeners- they go directly to the listing party! Regards,CASEY

[toncart]

I'm sure that the majority of the "good" stuff gets through with just one screener, but thre is always a chance that on a particular day, the one screener that you may get might not be the best particular screener for that song and therefore you don't get a forward. If you entered your child in a baby contest would you want one person making the decision? How many times did Taylor Hicks get a thumbs down on American Idol this year? School boards and church elders are voted by a committee. I'd hate to get the screener that spilled his/her coffee on the way to work, or the screener that has diarrhea I'd be willing to pay extra for song submissions knowing that I could get a second opinion. My dog had a sore leg this year and we took her to the vet and he said that she had a torn ligament in her knee. $2,000 surgery. We got a second opinion and we are happy that we did. No surgery and no $2,000 bill. Sometimes people in their own profession are just wrong. I sure am. Sometimes.

[Casey H]

Quote:I'm sure that the majority of the "good" stuff gets through with just one screener, but there is always a chance that on a particular day, the one screener that you may get might not be the best particular screener for that song and therefore you don't get a forward. If you entered your child in a baby contest would you want one person making the decision? How many times did Taylor Hicks get a thumbs down on American Idol this year? School boards and church elders are voted by a committee. I'd hate to get the screener that spilled his/her coffee on the way to work, or the screener that has diarrhea I'd be willing to pay extra for song submissions knowing that I could get a second opinion. My dog had a sore leg this year and we took her to the vet and he said that she had a torn ligament in her knee. $2,000 surgery. We got a second opinion and we are happy that we did. No surgery and no $2,000 bill. Sometimes people in their own profession are just wrong. I sure am. Sometimes. Hi ToncartScreeners are human and have good days and bad days and make some mistakes or misjudgments. What do you think happens when you submit directly to the A&R person at a publisher, label, or music library? Most of the time, one person gives your submission 30-40 seconds and if not impressed, "click". And yes, maybe they just weren't in the right mood when the heard your song. Maybe the A&R rep had a fight with his/her spouse that morning. This is the real world. Why do you expect TAXI screeners to be super-human? Would you complain to A&R at a label that they weren't fair and they should have given you a "2 out of 3"?? Also, when you are rejected with a direct submission to A&R, you rarely can get information as to why they "passed" on your material. With TAXI, agree or not, you at least get a reason (unless it is a Y/N). I'm not saying TAXI is better than direct submission or advocating TAXI. I'm just talking about how it is in the real world. Casey

[toncart]

Quote:Quote:I'm sure that the majority of the "good" stuff gets through with just one screener, but there is always a chance that on a particular day, the one screener that you may get might not be the best particular screener for that song and therefore you don't get a forward. If you entered your child in a baby contest would you want one person making the decision? How many times did Taylor Hicks get a thumbs down on American Idol this year? School boards and church elders are voted by a committee. I'd hate to get the screener that spilled his/her coffee on the way to work, or the screener that has diarrhea I'd be willing to pay extra for song submissions knowing that I could get a second opinion. My dog had a sore leg this year and we took her to the vet and he said that she had a torn ligament in her knee. $2,000 surgery. We got a second opinion and we are happy that we did. No surgery and no $2,000 bill. Sometimes people in their own profession are just wrong. I sure am. Sometimes. Hi ToncartScreeners are human and have good days and bad days and make some mistakes or misjudgments. What do you think happens when you submit directly to the A&R person at a publisher, label, or music library? Most of the time, one person gives your submission 30-40 seconds and if not impressed, "click". And yes, maybe they just weren't in the right mood when the heard your song. Maybe the A&R rep had a fight with his/her spouse that morning. This is the real world. Why do you expect TAXI screeners to be super-human? Would you complain to A&R at a label that they weren't fair and they should have given you a "2 out of 3"?? Also, when you are rejected with a direct submission to A&R, you rarely can get information as to why they "passed" on your material. With TAXI, agree or not, you at least get a reason (unless it is a Y/N). I'm not saying TAXI is better than direct submission or advocating TAXI. I'm just talking about how it is in the real world. CaseyI don't think that the TAXI screeners are "superhuman". They are human. I understand that. That's just silly. Everything you said confirms what I previously stated. Mistakes can be made. I don't want to be on the bad end of a mistake. Taxi is who I paid $300 to plus submission fees. I expect TAXI to be to be as "fair" as possible.

[Casey H]

Quote:Quote:Hi ToncartScreeners are human and have good days and bad days and make some mistakes or misjudgments. What do you think happens when you submit directly to the A&R person at a publisher, label, or music library? Most of the time, one person gives your submission 30-40 seconds and if not impressed, "click". And yes, maybe they just weren't in the right mood when the heard your song. Maybe the A&R rep had a fight with his/her spouse that morning. This is the real world. Why do you expect TAXI screeners to be super-human? Would you complain to A&R at a label that they weren't fair and they should have given you a "2 out of 3"?? Also, when you are rejected with a direct submission to A&R, you rarely can get information as to why they "passed" on your material. With TAXI, agree or not, you at least get a reason (unless it is a Y/N). I'm not saying TAXI is better than direct submission or advocating TAXI. I'm just talking about how it is in the real world. CaseyI don't think that the TAXI screeners are "superhuman". They are human. I understand that. That's just silly. Everything you said confirms what I previously stated. Mistakes can be made. I don't want to be on the bad end of a mistake. Taxi is who I paid $300 to plus submission fees. I expect TAXI to be to be as "fair" as possible. If you don't want to ever be on the bad end of a mistake then don't submit to this industry at all. Yes, the difference is the $300 you pay TAXI. Only you can decide if the feedback you get as to why your songs were not selected (and more leads) is worth the money. On "S" listings, you get detail. On "Y" listings or dispatch you do not. When I was a member my experience was that if I had a question as to why a track was not forwarded or something seemed amiss and I wanted a "re-review", my e-mail inquiries were handled well. Casey

[Casey H]

Hey Toncart'Nuff said... Peace Casey

[timejunkie]

Just wanted to thank evryone for the support of my music. Hey, it's only one listing... however if I see a trend then yeh I may reconsider my membership. If my music can't make the cut on an 80's listing then I have know idea what they are looking for.You are correct the client has the last word and if my stuff didn't cut it...oh well maybe next time.I'm going to keep submitting songs for a year or two and see what happens. I just hope I haven't joine the "Amway" of the music business. Just kidding Michael. My real problem is defining what my music is suited to (Modern Rock, Indie Rock..etc..) I just don't know anymore. Yeh it has an 80's feel to it but I could easily hear it next to many of "todays" tracks. I was writing for my solo CD when I found Taxi and decided to submit the songs so this selection process is new to me and I am learning VERY quickly.Writing for a specific listing is best left to the people who have 24 hours a day to write and record (which I don't at the moment).Anyway, I don't think Taxi is going to change their selection format any time soon. They have to do what is best for their clients...that is what pays the bills in the long run... so I guess time will tell.

[timejunkie]

Thanks Dave... I appreciate your comments.I am definately not apposed to writing for a listing. In fact, that would be a great challenge. I think once I have my CD complete I can then concentrate on that type of approach. I would like to strive to become a well rounded writer and performer and writing for individual listings would be a great avenue and experience.I truly believe I could write decent "modern country" songs since country music is now the 80's rcok of yesterday (IMHO). Clean up the guitars a little and away we go! Yeh... if it was only that easy eh. I honestly feel I will learn a great deal form the feedback I receive from both the helpful folks on this forum and the critiques from the "dreaded and mysterious" Taxi screeners. It's all about the learning and developing, somewhere someone will like the result... even if it's only me.