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Re: Mix thoughts?

Post by feaker66 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:52 am

Such a great song for sure. That guitar down the middle still doesn't work for me. I still hear it much louder than your sweet vocal. Especially the first part of the guitar riff ?Of course I have always been a troublemaker. So good to see some of the "old" songwriters still add it. Listened again and it is so close now. Would you consider panning it 20-40% left or right? ha ha

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Re: Mix thoughts?

Post by Phuovine » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:04 pm

Great song!

I have to agree with others about the middle guitar. Still in this new version your vocals sit behind the guitar which is very dry and upfront. What about panning the middle guitar to the right and vice versa? The guitar on the right seems more sparse and might leave more room for the vocals. But what I would do first is sink the guitars further down in space with reverb and bring the vocals up with less reverb. The vocals are so good I wanna hear them properly!
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Re: Mix thoughts?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:12 pm

It's a little better on the guitar Vs vocal front but I still think you gotta tackle it further with some EQ to get it to sit right

Maybe try dulling the guitar little , make sure you reference some guitar tracks in commercial songs, they might not be as bright as you think.

Then I'd probably grab a dynamic EQ, pull the vocal down until it's a too quiet to make out the lyrics properly...then use the EQ to pull out the guitar frequencies around the vocal area until you can hear the lyrics again. Then rebalance

Bass wise, I think you went too far the other way so maybe try halfway between where it was and where it is

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Re: Mix thoughts?

Post by SubRivers » Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:22 pm

I think this needs an old fashioned ride the faders approach to guitar vs vocal balance.
i,e, automate dipping guitar levels combined with dipping eq in competing ranges of the guitar.

Basically hand crafted compression and dynamic eq

Both guitar and vox have cool vibes that need meshing dynamically - doubt that can be done with a single setting on a plugin that works for the duration of the track

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Re: Mix thoughts?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:44 am

SubRivers wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:22 pm
doubt that can be done with a single setting on a plugin that works for the duration of the track
You can with tools like Trackspacer

But yeah, sometimes the old ways are the best ways

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