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Re: Muffled far off drums

Post by jonathanm » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:14 am

Any idea why you didn't hear the muffled sound while monitoring (it only showed up after rendering to wave)?
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Re: Muffled far off drums

Post by thokus » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:54 am

??? Jonathanm. Dont know.. Someone suggested becaues its goin through Windows player then... evrything Ive read in the last couple days says Mixing is tough and they suggest having a CD of a song that you know is perfect standing by to compare with .. also .. The compression on WAV is different and even more different when its goes to MP3.. so you need to account for that, I guess .. I starting another one from scratch today after a wedding then I'll apply all that Ive learned before i go crazy and see if it simpler ..
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Re: Muffled far off drums

Post by jonathanm » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:09 am

8-) As Bob Katz quotes from a Chinese fortune cookie in his book Mastering Audio: "Practice is the best of all instructions."

For the record, there is no inherent compression (audio or digital) in the wave file format. But the process of rendering a mix (whether to wave or any other format) can induce compression depending on the digital "signal chain". Propellerhead Record does have a built-in master bus compressor, and that may be the culprit you were hearing.

Glad you got it worked out. :D
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Re: Muffled far off drums

Post by ernstinen » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:38 pm

Another idea: Are your drums panned center, and other tracks are not (including vocals, bass etc.?). If that's the case, then probably your stereo tracks are out of phase. This is just a shot in the dark! --- Always check a mix in MONO, and if some center tracks seem to mostly vanish, something in your stereo mixing set-up is out of phase. That's probably not it, but it's worth checking out!

Story: I was up at our Minnesota cabin, and was listening to WELY in Ely. The signal was getting weak, so I pushed the mono button on my receiver. All I heard was reverb, certain rhythm tracks, and that was about it! I called the station, and asked for the engineer. "Oh, yah, well Olaf is out of town fishing!" I told her to give the engineer a message that ONE of their two CD players' wiring was out of phase. (One song sounded fine in mono, the next had the above problems!). She said "Yah, ya know, when Olaf gets back from fishing in a week I'll give him the message!"

Again, I doubt that's your problem, but it's a good engineering lesson! :lol: :mrgreen:

P.S. --- Ooops! Sorry if you figured it out already. Nevermind!

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Re: Muffled far off drums

Post by mojobone » Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:54 am

^^^What I was thinking when I asked about the connections, heh.
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