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Re: Musical Patterns

Post by gongchime » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:05 pm

As would "The Number of Letters in English names of length 'n'";4 3 3 5 4 4 3 5 5 4 3 6 6 8 8 7 7 9 8 8 6 9 9 11 10 10 9 11

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Post by gongchime » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:08 pm

I forget the name but the code for this one in the second link is AO72203 would produce only stepwise pitch motion if each number is assigned a pitch;1 2 1 2 1 2 3 2 1 2 3 4 3 2 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 4 3 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 6 5 4 3 4 3 4 3 2 1 etc...

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Post by gongchime » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:10 pm

as would "The Number of Runs in a Binary Expansion of n";1 2 1 2 3 2 1 2 3 4 3 2 3 2 1 2 3 4 3 4 5 4 3 2 3 4 3 2 3 2 1 etc...

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Post by gongchime » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:12 pm

and "Roman Numbers for n" with occasional motion by third and even more rare by fourth;1 2 3 2 1 2 3 4 2 1 2 3 4 3 2 3 4 5 3 2 3 4 5 4 3 4 5 6 4 3 4 5 6 7 5 2

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Re: Musical Patterns

Post by gongchime » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:17 pm

Some Cellular automata would produce various patterns, some that involve simultanaeities where some voices would linger, some drop out, and some appear. It could be interesting for experimental voice motion/chord construction.

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Re: Musical Patterns

Post by milfus » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:56 am

yeah but I mean, its all subject to reference, if you play these straight out, conforming to a scale, then objectively, it doesnt matter what the data is, you could use the nutrition label of say a doctor pepper can 1 5 5 5 2 4 1 3 4 2and it still sounds decent, or a phone number, its seems to me like the similarities are made after the fact, try it with a random number generator, or dice, it works the same, its the treatment of the data causing results, not the actual data
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Re: Musical Patterns

Post by gongchime » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:20 am

It IS partially the treatment of the data but the data matters too. I've used random number generators on the net and I keep two files on my computer; one pseudo random and the other truly random generated from the decay of radioactive isotopes. The Dr. Pepper can might sound decent if the way you interpret the data doesn't cause you to have too many leaps or long boring notes or long boring repetitions of notes, and if you were lucky enough to encounter a decent sequence etc... From my experience, random usually causes you to look quite hard to find something even bordering on decent. But it is helpful in locating something truly original, if you're willing to sift through all of the stuff that doesn't even have the suggestion of some kind of pattern. It's not an efficient way to explore the search space.

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Re: Musical Patterns

Post by gongchime » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:26 am

Since this thread isn't only about number patterns here are two charts. Click on either one to see it larger. One has patterns inspired from what some Middle Eastern countries do with their lutes such as oud. They play patterns from aniconic Islamic architecture like you would find on the walls of a mosque or in a palace. The other chart is what is used for testing the pattern recognition abilities of computers. I can think of ways to use that for music composition. It would be good for the listing on minimalist piano pieces. Cut out the tiles and then choose them at random, using an algorithm or some weighted scheme and then consider the black dots the notes of triads, then arpeggiate away.

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Re: Musical Patterns

Post by milfus » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:27 am

I dunno, maybe I am just adding inflection or something, but I am getting working melodies out of just about everything after conforming
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