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Need help with software sound and samples.

Post by MATTSTB » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:06 pm

In a listing ( S 201 203 PP ) it says it's a must to have software sounds and samples.

Therefore:

Are software sounds and samples the same thing ?

Are samples and software sounds two different things?

Can a sample from a popular artist be used,in the listing at all?

Can it be distorted and used in the song to be listed?

Do the software sounds have to sound like the popular artists sound, just made new for the listing?

Do the samples have to be from the popular artists CD or video?

Do the samples have to be created over again, new,by the new submitter to the TAXI listing ?

If a song is copyrighted in 2012,at (LOC) Library of Congress and parts of that song are used by a popular artist,obviously without permission, in 2020-----can the owner of the original song of 2012 use the 2020 sounds, sounds that are also located in the popular artists 2020 song ,all for a new TAXI submission ; where samples are a must,as in the case of
S 201 203 PP ?

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Re: Need help with software sound and samples.

Post by Zaychi » Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:31 pm

They refer to the libraries of sounds you are using. All libraries are basically sets of MIDI samples, so when you tell your DAW something like "play a violin" it loads a set of violin samples. So you should read the sentence in the listing emphasizing on he word "FRESH" rather than "samples and software instruments", cause ALL MIDI sound is samples (that is, all sound that wasn't recorded auodio)

It does NOT refer to the "general language" use of the word "samples", where it means little (but recognizable) bytes out of popular songs. Do NOT use samples like that in your music for TAXI listings, or you'll find yourself in all kinds of legal trouble.

The wording in this listing just means that you should modern, as opposed to dated, sounds libraries.

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Re: Need help with software sound and samples.

Post by hummingbird » Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:37 pm

Can a sample from a popular artist be used,in the listing at all?
Can it be distorted and used in the song to be listed?
Do the samples have to be from the popular artists CD or video?


Absolutely no. That is copyright infringement.
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Re: Need help with software sound and samples.

Post by andygabrys » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:16 pm

In a listing ( S 201 203 PP ) it says it's a must to have software sounds and samples.


First you should paste the entire listing text into your post. That helps everyone to see what context it is referring to.

Like mentioned above:

Software sounds like the included library of virtual instruments, sampled instruments, and sound effects and loops in Logic X are the basis of a lot of music production for visual media today.

These sounds may totally original (such as a synthesizer sound) or might be made up of a pre-recorded set of sounds arranged to make a playable instrument (like a virtual piano or a virtual string orchestra) or they might be recordings of individual sounds (like foley effects or vocal chops).

The key is that they are "unencumbered" or "royalty free".

Every sound package that you can buy from a reputable company is going to either be royalty free or will come with a specific set of license terms that allow you to use them in specific ways.

An example would be the Native Instruments Komplete Ultimate package. Generally as long as the sounds / samples in this package are recombined to make an original music work, and the particular sounds are not exposed in a way that would allow their standalone use from the piece of music then they are fair game as long as you have paid for the software. Each piece of software / sound collection will have its own specific license terms that you need to obey and follow or otherwise risk legal action against you.

So the rest of your questions can be answered on that basis as well:

Can a sample from a popular artist be used,in the listing at all?

NO. Who owns the sample? Likely the record company, and in some cases if the artist is self-produced then the artist owns it.

Can it be distorted and used in the song to be listed?

Changing the sound by tempo / pitch manipulation or distortion still makes it a stolen sample. Check out Kayne West's catalog.


Do the software sounds have to sound like the popular artists sound, just made new for the listing?

If you do a sound-alike recording of a popular song you will be up on copyright infringement.

If you use similar sounds from a royalty free library or software package in a way that gets the feeling of the song while using original music ideas, then you will likely be ok.



If a song is copyrighted in 2012,at (LOC) Library of Congress and parts of that song are used by a popular artist,obviously without permission, in 2020-----can the owner of the original song of 2012 use the 2020 sounds, sounds that are also located in the popular artists 2020 song ,all for a new TAXI submission ; where samples are a must,as in the case of
S 201 203 PP ?


This is a really vague question.

The original work / master is copyrighted. If someone copies parts of that in a later work then these new works are not owned by the original artist / master owner - but there will likely be a copyright suite filed against the later work and in general some or all of the money that the later work generates will be awarded to the original artist / master owner. Its stolen material.

For example - an old well worn example:

The Rolling Stones (Mick Jagger and Keith Richards) wrote the song "The last time". The Andrew Oldham Orchestra made a cover recording of that song. So that's a new master recording but the songwriting still attributed to Mick and Keith.

Then the Verve illegally used a sample of the orchestral version of the Last Time in their song "Bitter Sweet Symphony". Mick and Keith et al sued them and got the money from this song.

So like Vikki and Zaychi said:

NOT a GOOD IDEA.

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