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Post by pveniot » Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:54 am

Hi,
We, as musicians composers, get a lot of advice as to be be professionals and have ''smooth'' relationships with
business partners, aka music libraries, music sups, sync agents etc...

But what if you have a library owner that asks you for 3 albums of differents styles, about 30 cues and alt mixes...
He always said they sounded great...
All signed exclusive contracts but nothing is online yet after 6 months.
His library is inexistant in all google searches!

Should I consider them contracts void and null?
(No, I don't have money to hire a music business lawer!)

I put all my work to give him quality music that is hard to source in many ways:
Classical baroque music, ethnic Japanese and Chinese traditional cues.


Everytime I send an email, it takes months to get a reply, when I insist on an answer,
'' Well, I am very busy, cannot respnse to all my emails...''
and some irrelevent stuff, I spare to tell you.

Yes these where taxi Forwards.

I feel that these hundreds hours of hard work are going to waste if I don't do someting.
I can give you his/her name privately if need be.

What would you do in the same situation or what did you do when confronted to something like that?

Hoping to get
Thanks for your time
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Post by Casey H » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:02 am

I would contact Taxi and ask if they know what's going on with the library. They vet their clients very well but occasionally circumstances with a client change down the road. If you have questions or concerns, it's very likely you are not the only one.

There's a very good chance that all is well and the person is just very busy. And I've seen libraries take an incredibly long time to actually put the new tracks in their catalog, whether on-line or not. This is especially true when they do albums as they may have specific timing as to when they release various albums.

Let us know how things go.

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Re: New Lame Library

Post by cosmicdolphin » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:07 am

For context I'm still waiting for a Taxi friendly library to release an album which I delivered 3yrs ago this month :shock: ( and the owner has appeared at the RR so not like they are some random unknown publisher )

I get that it's highly frustrating and I've come to the conclusion over a number of years the at the best libraries to put my music into which earn the most backend also seem to be the most efficient at onboarding the music and getting it into the hands of their clients.

6 months isn't that long in the grand scheme of things but I would be put off by the lack of response. You should have signed a contract, so if you are minded to pull them out either go through it to see if there is a non exploitation clause as I have seen them in some of my library contracts or paste the contract into ChatGPT or similar and ask it if there is one. ( great use case for A.I LLMs )

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Post by Casey H » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:54 am

I don't think 6 months is long enough to say it's non-exploitation. And getting all legal on them will make things worse, don't recommend it. After 1-2 years, if nothing is happening, maybe ask them nicely if you could pull the tracks and cancel the contract. But first, deep breath. Talk to Taxi and see what they know. And other members.

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Re: New Lame Library

Post by VanderBoegh » Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:49 pm

I can understand the frustration, but 6 months really isn't long enough to gauge success in this industry (especially with so many shows & productions being put on hiatus during the strikes that have lasted the past 5+ months).

My big question for you is: How much music have you written since delivering these? My advice to everyone is ALWAYS to write so much material that you don't remember what you made 6 months ago. If you're approaching this business from an output-oriented mindset, then you should have a pile of tracks that you've accumulated or signed during the past 1/2 year. Focus on those, and what you are going to make this week, rather than risk burning bridges over something that's already signed and out the door.

And CERTAINLY don't break the contract you signed, or consider it null & void. You signed it, so just move on and hope for the best. I've had tracks sit idle in libraries for years and years before finally seeing action on a TV show. Happens all the time. That's why you just need to keep making more and more music.

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Re: New Lame Library

Post by cosmicdolphin » Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:53 pm

Casey H wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:54 am
I don't think 6 months is long enough to say it's non-exploitation.
The ones I have say 6 months

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Re: New Lame Library

Post by pveniot » Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:39 pm

VanderBoegh wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:49 pm
I can understand the frustration, but 6 months really isn't long enough to gauge success in this industry (especially with so many shows & productions being put on hiatus during the strikes that have lasted the past 5+ months).

My big question for you is: How much music have you written since delivering these? My advice to everyone is ALWAYS to write so much material that you don't remember what you made 6 months ago. If you're approaching this business from an output-oriented mindset, then you should have a pile of tracks that you've accumulated or signed during the past 1/2 year. Focus on those, and what you are going to make this week, rather than risk burning bridges over something that's already signed and out the door.

And CERTAINLY don't break the contract you signed, or consider it null & void. You signed it, so just move on and hope for the best. I've had tracks sit idle in libraries for years and years before finally seeing action on a TV show. Happens all the time. That's why you just need to keep making more and more music.

~~Matt
Hi Matt, I wrote 257 cues/songs since 2020, I have about 25 placements and 100 tracks signed with differents editors.
These are also very hard to produce... especially the classical ones where the performance as to be on par...
Thanks for your reply
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Re: New Library

Post by pveniot » Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:41 pm

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