New "Rock" Song (Hi wta)

[geo]

Hi Guys...This was the last song I wrote with my full band mid 90's... tried to update the feel.... it's rough.... gotta tweak the drums and guits.... Mike's first go round with it .... Does it...Fit/work in with Modern/Alt rock...Need second verse reworked.... "Constantly" don't work... know that....Make enough sense lyrically....Need something in the break down section.... besides better playing Any and all other comments welcomed....Peace, Geohttp://www.taximusic.com/download/196561/Nothi ... mp3Nothing I DoGeo 2007Every minute of each day every second you’re awayWhat a price I pay for all the things I sayAnd all the things I do for everything I put you throughI’m telling you the truth I do it all for youI’m trying everything I canBut you still don’t understandHow it feels when nothing I do means anything to youJust how it feels when nothing I do means anything to youTo be or not to be I stand by faithfullyJust hoping that you see there’s love between you and meEven though I’ve caused you pain constantly drive you insaneI have to ask you again gimme one more chance to change I’m trying everything I canBut you still don’t understandHow it feels when nothing I do means anything to youJust how it feels when nothing I do means anything to youI try and try but nothing I do means anything to youNothing I do means anything to youI’m trying everything I canBut you still don’t understandHow it feels when nothing I do means anything to youJust how it feels when nothing I do means anything to you I try and try but nothing I do means anything to youNothing I do means anything to youAnything to youNothing I do means anything to you

[geo]

Hi... dug this off the second page....New version in above link....Redid guitars, tweaked drums.... got that middle section under control.... haven't had a chance to redo vocals .... ran it through Uno...All comments desired.... but also....My monitors have a glitch in the switch... still usable ... (adjust volumn on interface) .... but Guitar Center cut me a check for the purchase value...(purchased protection plan).... so I have a few bucks to spend.... should I.....a. Put the money towards a new Strat...play a cheap knock off now...b. Get a drum program... EZ Drummer or Addictive?c. Maybe a guitar modelling program.... or...d. Upgrade to Logic Pro.... I think I get a lot of the above stuff there... no Strat but lots of sounds and stuff...I 'm leaning d. ... what's your opinion... this song is a good example of the sounds & drums I got now....Thanks Guys!Peace, Geo

[billg]

hey Geo, this is a cool song but it sounds like the bass and kick drum are fighting each other. You might want to listen closely to just the drums and bass & see what you need to do to tighten those up.As far as what to spend money on . . . If you like your strat copy & it plays good & sounds alright then don't sweat another guitar -New drums might be smart. I have EZ Drummer but I've messed with the Addictive demo. If I had the choice again I would go with Addictive.Instead of a guitar modelling program how about a nice little versitile amp that you can throw a mic on? It'll sound better than the modelling imo.

[wta]

HI GEO... LOL! This tune has got a great pop/surf punk feel to it. I'm auditioning the tune on my Song MDR-V600 headphones, I'm with billg on the drum/bass issue. I've found that shelfing the mids and cutting the hi and low freqs a bit on the bass and doing the opposite with the kick solves the fight for freq space. Also shifting the bass off center slightly can help. I'm also with billg on the guitar issue. If its intonation is good its really about the pickups. If you're not playing live with it and trying to impress snobby guitar fans your guitar is really just about the quality of the tone. Gotta have GREAT drum software for sure so if you don't have it that would be my hightest priority, I use Groove Agent 3 by Steinberg but a versitile tube amp AND amp modelling units are both good to have. My recommendation for a tube amp on a budget is the Peavey Bravo 112. I've got one and its REALLY good, its a combo so you've got clean and dirty channel and its small to move around with ease but is really loud as well and could easily handle a small venue stage. I've own several tube amps and this one has been, for the money the one I keep around, I paid $250 used. I also have a Fender PA 135 which is a old Fender tube 135 watt PA. Its wired the same as the Fender Twin AND has 4 channels! Used you can find them from $250-$400. I LOVE MINE, AMAZING tone and versitility, the only down fall is it doesn't have an overdrive dial but I use stomp boxes anyway so... GREAT CLEAN sound and GREAT reverb. hth... Oh, I've been looping your tune, I'm on about 4 times now, GREAT TUNE... wta

[southpaw]

hey Amp, cool song! Kinda had a Euro rock feeling to me. Vocals sound pretty good, id raise em up a little bit. Nice job. I thought the mix hurt the impact of the song a little. Bass didnt sit right with me. It was too loud in the intro was too quiet in the other sections. Kick drum isnt powerful enough IMO. The guitar tone seems to me to be lacking the 'drive' as in that of a typical modern rock song. The highs are irritating to the ears, try cutting some of those freqs, and adding a little to the 620HZ octave range to give it body. Id reccomend you focus on the relationship between the kick drum, bass guitar, snare, and vocals in terms of level and placement... and then reshape the guitar tone to make it more powerful. hthJamie

[silvercord]

Hi Geo!long time no message! I hope things are going well with you and yoursyay money in the pocket from my old company (guitar center)(yup hehe i worked there...i have too many stories about thatplace!:D)the song..i feel allot of punk pop with kind of a 50s songwriting feel in this puppy... the production reminds me of Modern Englishi have a hunch if you want to have a more 'updated' sound,the mix would be less wet with the 'verb(which i cant live without,in my own mixes, mind you; )if instruments were a dry, they would sound more punchy andpunky ala green day...and i think you could use both mixesfor different listingsi have done my best to ween the reverb from some of my mixesand i feel it helps my ear a bit more...i guess i have used reverbin the past like MSG at a cheap Chinese resturant...(it also doesn't really help that i like making space rock..which isthe most MSG audio food;)i hope this helped a bit...peace from the East!geoff

[ideascapes]

Geo,Is that you singing? It's pretty darn good, maybe a little overcompressed. And I think the chorus is catchy. Probably not Modern/Alt rock, tho. You're getting some good advice above re: EQ and verb settings; I'm hearing the same thing.I think I'd also go with the new drums. If I were buying today, I'd get Superior Drummer 2.0 (www.toontrack.com). Same outfit as EZ drummer, but way better.Vince

[kitz]

Hi Geo,Glad your back!! The tune rocks but there are some production issues from this standpoint. I really think the bass and bass drum need to come out more. The guitars dominate and gloss over the punch that the bass and drums could provide. The guitars also could be more distinct yet less volumnous. Maybe the verb is an issue but I would also like to hear a little more pan or delay on the guitars in the mix. They seem to sit a little close to the center from my pov. And maybe a little less distortion on the guitars or a nice tube compression might help there.I'm hearing the vocals out front and that's good. I think you should allow the bass and bass drum to dominate over the guitars. I really like the way you drop out the distortion in places and use a clean sound. Just a thought - try mixing everything without the guitars. Then when you're satisfied with a ballsy punching bottom end almost rivaling the vocal in their existence- bring the guitars in to fill the space.These are just my thoughts - take it with a grain of tequila.Kitz

[wta]

I'd like to just toss out a potentially helpful hint... If when we review tunes add how we are monitoring/listening. I know for me its tough to really trust anothers ear on eqing and db levels and so on if I'm not sure how they're auditioning the tune. If its laptop speakers, studio monitor that have been "rang" with pink noise, high quality headphones, low quality headphones, home sterio, computer speakers and so on. For me it give me a reference point and I though maybe that kind of info may help others... If you use hearing aids, that might be a kinda helpful thing to know too... wta

[geo]

Thanks for the feedback guys.... new mix behind the link...Bill - got lazy left my scratch bass line there... redid that and EQ everything... think it's better...WTA - I ended up cutting highs on the kick and some lows on the bass... Jamie - tried beefing up the guitar sound... I just getting my head around EQ cuts so the suggestion was helpful...Geoff - been busy... verb is cut cross the board.... left like a smidge on vocals but cut it elsewhere...Vince - thanks.... yeah... it seems more Pop/Punk...Kitz - thanks for the suggestions... I did spread the mix out more...Thanks again guys.... Peace, GeoP.S. Looks like the drums have it... cool... more toys...