Omnisphere - How's it working for you?

[matto]

Cool stuff John!! Really shows the versatility of it...Btw I didn't think the day would ever come when Ms Vikki got the latest greatest gadget before moi...

[hummingbird]

Sept 19, 2008, 9:58pm, matto wrote:Btw I didn't think the day would ever come when Ms Vikki got the latest greatest gadget before moi... ha ha, that's UPS Expidited for ya. OTOH, as you told me sagely last Rally... one can buy all the toys, but it's having the skill to do something with them that counts... that I'm still working on

[hummingbird]

Mazz, OmniVoices is very cool, ambient and sweet, yet kinda haunting too. Sort of Elvish in scope. OmniAmbient is eerie but has a sense of action too. Feels like it would be good for a war movie.I was playing tonight too, sketching something out to see what I could do. Had some fun. This is Omnisphere and Stylus. I called it "Deja Vu" because it's electronica with a bit of a retro feel. I think http://www.vikkiflawith.com/audio/VIKKI ... a_Vu.m3uPS - Glenn - I couldn't get your link to work

[ggalen]

Vicki,I just tried the link above and it did play for me.But it was just an early little idea, to show what Omnisphere can do quickly. I'm sure those who have Omnisphere have quite a few themselves now!It's very fast to get some great sounds. Now I am trying to concentrate on going beyond hittting a key or two over a drone. I think there will be lots of those out there soon. I keep telling myself: Melody! Creativity! Don't just hold down a key and stop there!

[mojobone]

Sept 19, 2008, 10:48pm, hummingbird wrote:Mazz, OmniVoices is very cool, ambient and sweet, yet kinda haunting too. Sort of Elvish in scope. OmniAmbient is eerie but has a sense of action too. Feels like it would be good for a war movie.I was playing tonight too, sketching something out to see what I could do. Had some fun. This is Omnisphere and Stylus. I called it "Deja Vu" because it's electronica with a bit of a retro feel. I think http://www.vikkiflawith.com/audio/VIKKI ... a_Vu.m3uPS - Glenn - I couldn't get your link to work Wow! Really cool! Not too many sounds in there I couldn't get, but I hafta admit, it'd take me hours with my patchwork of hardware and soft synths, samplers and effects to pull that off. I think I'm more impressed with the Stylus percussion sounds, I'd probably find a use for some of those more modern sounds, if I had more of 'em. Might be time to start scroungeing...

[mazz]

Given enough time, any of us could come up with cool, unique sounds on par with Omnisphere. The attractive thing about instruments like Omnisphere is that it helps composers in time constrained jobs such as film/TV to get great, evocative sounds pretty easily. The pitfall of an instrument like Omnisphere is that it's so easy to put one finger down and get cool sounds that one gets lulled in to complacency and winds up using the stock sounds. It didn't take me very long at all to mangle the Omnisphere and Stylus sounds beyond recognition with their powerful and easy to use editing and effects sections. There's really no excuse for not twiddling with these things, even just the attack time or the echo or filter. Even just using the mod wheel on patches that use it for cross fading means that you're playing the instrument, not just triggering it.Glenn's link to the article about the "one finger composers" taking over the world is right on mostly. I still have to believe that we all have the same 12 notes available to us and yet some still manage to rise above the sea of mediocrity and create incredible music with those 12 little notes. And they didn't get there and stay there by combining a bunch of stock loops and holding down one note for 3 minutes and letting the arpeggiator take all the credit. Blah, Blah, Blah, ........... Mazz

[hummingbird]

Sept 21, 2008, 1:55am, mojobone wrote:Sept 19, 2008, 10:48pm, hummingbird wrote:Mazz, OmniVoices is very cool, ambient and sweet, yet kinda haunting too. Sort of Elvish in scope. OmniAmbient is eerie but has a sense of action too. Feels like it would be good for a war movie.I was playing tonight too, sketching something out to see what I could do. Had some fun. This is Omnisphere and Stylus. I called it "Deja Vu" because it's electronica with a bit of a retro feel. I think http://www.vikkiflawith.com/audio/VIKKI ... a_Vu.m3uPS - Glenn - I couldn't get your link to work Wow! Really cool! Not too many sounds in there I couldn't get, but I hafta admit, it'd take me hours with my patchwork of hardware and soft synths, samplers and effects to pull that off. I think I'm more impressed with the Stylus percussion sounds, I'd probably find a use for some of those more modern sounds, if I had more of 'em. Might be time to start scroungeing...Mojobone - thanks for the listen. Deja Vu was created with Omnisphere only just to see what I could do, but it works great with Stylus too

[ggalen]

Mazz,Thanks for the encouragement. Sounds like we are in agreement. Those of us with real musical ability just have to find the people who value it, and need it.I started my career as a software engineer in 1985 with a masters level degree in computer science and cognitive psychology. It was wide open: computers were new, and LOTS of software needed to be written, in all fields.Since then, programming tools made things easier and easier, and it went from being something "computer scientists" do, to being something that teenagers can do.But back then, as soon as there was a great need for talented programmers, software companies found a market making tools that would allow less-talented programmers to do things that previously only gifted programmers could do. Witness Visual Basic in 1992 or so.This happened in the graphic design field as well. New versions of Photoshop and Fireworks allow you to get effects with the click of a button that only gifted digital artists could figure out how to do 10 years ago.Same thing with web design and programming.The money is only there when workers are relatively scarce. Once every kid can do it, it no longer pays much.I see something a bit similar happening in DAWs, plugin effects chains, and virtual instruments: software companies are helping the less gifted achieve a sonic result.This will only continue.You have to sell something that cannot be automated.

[ggalen]

Vicki,From what I've read and heard from you on Taxi, you certainly seem like a composer to me. That would seem to be your heart. I bet you'd be bored if you weren't creating something from within yourself.I can relate.I gave my career history because I've been financially affected by "computer automation tools" already. So I think about this a lot.

[ggalen]

FT,Interesting story. And good points!