ProTools/Logic vs Cubase etc -

[billg]

We used to have this same discussion all the time on the video forums about Avid. Funny, but that's the same company (as P-Tools). They seem to have a knack at cornering the market & then getting more money for their product.Having a better or more costly hammer doesn't mean you can build a better house.

[slideboardouts]

Sept 19, 2008, 2:06pm, daniel481 wrote:"Those are my thoughts exactly on the whole protools thing. PT just doesn't make much sense for the majority of composers. Its overpriced and its features (or lack there of) are just blah."Stuff like that is silly to say, too. I use PT everyday to compose (on some pretty major projects!) and I love it. I know many other successful composers who do the same. It costs a bit more, but not really that much in the scheme of things. I also use Logic, and I love that, too. If I had to use Cubase or DP, I'd also figure that out. So, like other people have said, it just doesn't matter. Just make good music, and who cares!DanNot saying that PT can't be used for composing or that its not a good DAW. I think it is a fine DAW. All I was really saying is that compared to what other DAW's offer for the price, PT isn't all that attractive...especially for a composer on a budget. I haven't used the newest version of PT so maybe a lot has changed. But when I was first looking at DAWs to purchase, PT just didn't do enough and I wasn't a big fan of being locked into using their hardware. There is really only one thing about working in PT that always bothers me...whenever bouncing a track (say its 3:30), you have to sit there and listen to all 3:30 in real time while its exporting . Have they changed that? Or is there at least an option? -Steve

[georginasaint]

OK, I think we have the verdict - this guy is talking C*ap and I can just forget about him. (With great glee!)I have nothing to compare with as Cubase is my first DAW and I'm still learning to use it. Thanks for all your thoughts everyone - very interesting to me, all of it. Georgie

[nickbatzdorf]

"I've worked on both Logic and Protools."I use both too, but for different things. Pro Tools is a fantastic production program, Logic is great for writing."Pro Tools USED to be the only really thing going but it isn't anymore."...and it hasn't been for a good 12 or 13 years!All the major sequencers have undergone continuous development by some very bright people under fierce competition for years and years. You're not going to go wrong with any of them: Sonar, Cubase/Nuendo, Digital Performer, Logic, and Pro Tools.

[hummingbird]

Sept 20, 2008, 2:58pm, nickbatzdorf wrote:"I've worked on both Logic and Protools."I use both too, but for different things. Pro Tools is a fantastic production program, Logic is great for writing."Pro Tools USED to be the only really thing going but it isn't anymore."...and it hasn't been for a good 12 or 13 years!All the major sequencers have undergone continuous development by some very bright people under fierce competition for years and years. You're not going to go wrong with any of them: Sonar, Cubase/Nuendo, Digital Performer, Logic, and Pro Tools.Just to add that I started with MacKie's Tracktion, which is very user friendly and doesn't feel like you're trying to fly a plane... it's worked for me so far.

[Mark Kaufman]

And Reaper.

[bigbluebarry]

Sept 19, 2008, 3:01pm, slideboardouts wrote:There is really only one thing about working in PT that always bothers me...whenever bouncing a track (say its 3:30), you have to sit there and listen to all 3:30 in real time while its exporting . Have they changed that? Or is there at least an option? -Steve Steve,There is a way to export your mix without having to do the bounce to disk option. I create a stereo audio track and then send all of my tracks into one stereo bus that I then route to the stereo audio track. I record my mix onto that track and then I go into the regions menu and select the "Export Regions as a file" option and it allows me to export that stereo track as a .wav file, or .mp3 or any other option that's available to you in the "Bounce to disk" option without having to do it in real time.- Big Blueps - While I am an avid supporter of Pro Tools, I agree with the majority of people here, it's not the DAW, but it's how you use it. If I had the time, I'd love to learn Cubase.

[guscave]

Sept 22, 2008, 10:33am, bigbluebarry wrote:Sept 19, 2008, 3:01pm, slideboardouts wrote:There is really only one thing about working in PT that always bothers me...whenever bouncing a track (say its 3:30), you have to sit there and listen to all 3:30 in real time while its exporting . Have they changed that? Or is there at least an option? -Steve Steve,There is a way to export your mix without having to do the bounce to disk option. I create a stereo audio track and then send all of my tracks into one stereo bus that I then route to the stereo audio track. I record my mix onto that track and then I go into the regions menu and select the "Export Regions as a file" option and it allows me to export that stereo track as a .wav file, or .mp3 or any other option that's available to you in the "Bounce to disk" option without having to do it in real time.- Big BlueHey Big Blue,How do you mix all your track from the bus outs onto the stereo audio track without having to listen to it in real time? Don't you still have to record the mix to the stereo track?I know that in Cubase when you bounce the mix, it does it instantly. For example; a 3 minute song will bounce down in about 40 seconds.Curious..

[bigbluebarry]

guscave... yes, you still have to record the mix to the stereo track, and yes, that's in real time. But once you've done that, then you can export that file in a matter of seconds without having to do it in real time.

[weslong]

I don't like PT because it's a controlling, closed system and not in a good way unlike Mac. I think there stuff is okay but definitely not worth all that money and the constant upgrades.You want something serious that is adaptable to your hardware build, take a look at Samplitude/Seqouia--http://www.samplitude.com/eng/seq/seq_bestellen.html