Changing pitch w/o tempo change

[quietextrovert]

Hey gang;I am using Audacity running on Linux, and recently used a plug-in to change the Pitch of guitars, keys, and bass up from E up to G. I think the guitars and keys are good enough but I re-did the bass part, it sounded a little funny. Has anyone else used this method or am I just cheating? Also this is teaching me to write songs in a range for my singer. Oh my God, I think i am actually growing as a song writer .I appreciate any inputSteve

[nickbatzdorf]

I've used two different programs in Pro Tools to do this, with amazing results: Serrato Pitch'nTime and Sound Toys Speed. Isotope also has one, but I haven't used it.

[nickbatzdorf]

Melodyne is also amazing, but I don't think it works as well with whole mixes - at least I've never tried to use it for that.

[gatorjj]

I did this recently in Mackie Tracktion to lower the guitars and bass tracks 3 steps (so I could sing over it). It came out pretty well though I think once you get too far away it can't help but degrade. I don't think it's any more cheating than slowing or speeding tape up!

[ernstinen]

Aug 4, 2008, 9:44am, nickbatzdorf wrote:I've used two different programs in Pro Tools to do this, with amazing results: Serrato Pitch'nTime and Sound Toys Speed. Isotope also has one, but I haven't used it.I went to Nick's studio a couple years ago, and he graciously did the opposite for me --- changed the time without changing the pitch! It was a recording of an orchestral piece of mine by the Bulgarian Philharmonic. The conductor missed a tempo change from 80 b.p.m. to 130 b.p.m. around 2 minutes into the piece! My demo was 9:04, and the Philharmonic version dragged ass, ending up at over 14 minutes! I was crushed, until Nick helped me out.The BIZARRE result was Nick's version timed out at exactly 9:04!!!!The other weird thing was that with the time sped up, the woodwind vibratos sounded like a goat bleating! But it was MUCH better than the original recording.Thanks again, Batzdorf!Ern

[quietextrovert]

Thanks for the input and advise. I am just entering the wild world of plug-ins and it's kinda fun tweaking sounds. ...Goats bleating? I like it.

[Mark Kaufman]

Oh Man! You mean I could have saved myself the cost of renting all those #@%$ goats???

[matthoggard]

Whats the union scale for goats these days anyway??

[nickbatzdorf]

Ern:

[elser]

Aug 4, 2008, 7:51am, quietextrovert wrote:Hey gang;I am using Audacity running on Linux, and recently used a plug-in to change the Pitch of guitars, keys, and bass up from E up to G. I think the guitars and keys are good enough but I re-did the bass part, it sounded a little funny. Has anyone else used this method or am I just cheating? Also this is teaching me to write songs in a range for my singer. Oh my God, I think i am actually growing as a song writer .I appreciate any inputSteveFirst off, I don't think there is any cheating, if so it usually get's covered in the copyright legislation. Take the benefits of technology and use it in creative ways and it's still self expression.And ya, most of the DAWs do pitch and time 'correction'. Check out 'Live' if you want to do alot of that, it really works well. Elser