Hip Hop

[aimusic]

Hey All,Quick question, what would you say is ideal software to use for hip hop beats (I'm more into writing my own that buying loops etc)BIG HAIRY SOUNDING HIP HOP DRUMS? Take CareBIs Modern Beats a good place to get some?

[clanmorgan]

Depends on how you want to incorporate them into your tunes and setup. I use a blend of virtural instruments but there are a great number of beats available as sound libraries also. Checkout soundsonline.com for some libraries. If you use Reason there are alot of REX formated libraries available everywhere. I prefer Stylus RMX from Spectrasonics... nice collection and ability to edit the midi files and create complex beats... Not sure about ModernBeats... if you are into creating the beats in midi then why not get a $200 drum module hardware? That way you get the REAL Hip Hop sounds and not a software version...- Mic

[mojobone]

Most guys I know have multiple commercial sample libraries; the best guys make their own samples from pawn-shop instruments and found junk. You'd be amazed how much stuff on the radio is sampled from a $50 toy keyboard from the likes of Yamaha or Casio, sampled into an Akai MPC and crushed into distortion with a digital compressor or downsampled from cleaner sources. Emu's Planet Phatt is also a common source.You can find the raw samples and presets from that box in a lot of places. (but the hardware includes some great tools for mangling samples, as well) iZotope's Trash has many ways to make any sample hairy enough to suit; Their Vinyl VST is free and a necessity, IMO, if you don't have Trash.Much depends on how hands-on you want to get; the more shortcuts you take, the more generic you'll sound.

[timmcallister]

good info so far.I have RMX and it is incredibly incredibly incredibly deep (did I say it's deep?) but your really manipulating beats with it, not creating your own.you can go from the extreme of recording your own drums and mangling them in hardware/software all the way to using loops, and a thousand places in between. It's finding the spot in there thats right for you.Assuming you want to start from "single hits", the Akai mojobone mentioned is a fantastic (and expensive) hardware box. In software, battery is popular. I think Abletons "drum rack" is pretty amazing for this kind of stuff.Clan mentioned soundsonline.com I like producerloops.com, soundsondemand.com, soundstosample.com and loopmasters.com. Most of the sites I mentioned allow instant downloads on purchase, and shop around on price. Some of the UK/Europe sites sell libraries for significantly less than the US sites. And many of the loop libraries come with single hits of all the drums, so you can make your own beats from those.peace

[ibanez468]

One quick note "B", you can manipulate the Stylus RMX loops (or any loop for that matter) if you have Recycle! Great piece of software for manipulating loops of any type, and practically re-inventing a whole new loop if ya' want. You can also adjust the pitch without disrupting the tempo & vice versa. You can also save as a REX file, and load it into Stylus RMX or Reason, or any number of devices. You can even compress, eq, and shape transients with it. Powerful little piece of software. Very important weapon in my arsenal, when called upon. Relatively inexpensive. Worth the investment, I think.I-468

[timmcallister]

Jul 19, 2008, 4:25am, ibanez468 wrote: if you have Recycle! Great piece of software for manipulating loops of any type, and practically re-inventing a whole new loop if ya' want. true that

[jh]

I´d say it depends on the "style". These days, the drum sounds are not that "big and hairy" anymore, TR-808 is still in heavy use, though.I think Modernbeats has some good stuff... But basically, almost anythingis ideal for hip-hop beats, it´s not "what" but ""how".- JH

[ibanez468]

Jul 19, 2008, 9:48am, jh wrote:But basically, almost anything is ideal for hip-hop beats, it´s not "what" but ""how".Good point JH! The "how" is the one that always gets me! I-468