Any users of BFD2?

[davekershaw]

May 8, 2008, 11:51pm, aimusic wrote:watch American shows (which 9/10 are WAAAAY better than British shows - talking about sitcoms that is).. Ringo did his job, and he did it well, he may not be as technical as Bonham was, but he got the job done... it's like some people run the marathon, other people walk it - but atleast they finish it in the end. Aw come on Brad! You comparing Friends to Steptoe and Son!No contest!!Agreed though; todays sitcoms are dreadful, on both sides of the pond - in my mumble opinion. We've got nothing today like Steptoe, and the States nothing like Mash - IMHO.Yes, Ringo is an underated drummer. The Beatles did complement each other perfectly. George Harrison said: "Playing without Ringo is like driving a car on three wheels."An' hey, Led Zeppelin were massive everywhere - especially the States. Surely they hit South Africa!

[aimusic]

Bearing in mind that when Zep where massive, I think I was a twinkle in my dad's eye... and my mom never really listened to em. She was more into Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Jethro Tull etc....I've tried watching Brit sitcoms and find that I get bored very quickly.... dunno why... but I still think Scrubs and How I Met Your Mother are quality shows... cept for them damn Halifax ads they throw in the middle - sorry, it's been awhile - just HAD to put it in there But Like I said, South Africa is more Americanised, Zep might have been big, but they would have been promoting bands like Kiss, Metallica, Guns and Roses etc a lot more even though there's a few years gap difference. It had something to do with Britain not wanting to give us the rights to their music/t.v.shows etc, that we became so Americanised... Damn Apartheid and all the crap it caused...

[aimusic]

And might I just add, that you're looking younger these days Dave, using L'Oreal cream? Coz you know they come with anti-ageing/wrinkeling cream that tautens the skin...blah blah blah... I didn't know that anti-ageing atoms existed... damn it....

[liamkelly]

May 9, 2008, 2:38am, davekershaw wrote:[quote author=aimusic board=nick thread=7377 post=63583 time=1210319489]An' hey, Led Zeppelin were massive everywhere - especially the States. Surely they hit South Africa! Hey DaveZep were huge in SA too. But those were the very dark days of apartheid and many companies chose (rightly so) not to distribute their product in South Africa. Even in the music industry. So some records were very hard to come by. Although there were a few small record shops importing stuff illegally and the like. Of course, some record companies appointed distributors at so-called 'arms length' and still sold their product there anyway. While proclaiming, on the other hand, their abhorrence of apartheid. Hypocrisy in the extreme.But let's not go there Liam.

[aimusic]

Liam - you a Saffer??? If So - I REJOICE THAT I'M NOT ALONE!!!!And let's not mention how even though I was the tender age of 9 when Apartheid ended - I somehow still get blamed for it... interesting....Hey Liam what's Tree 63 up to these days? I used to really dig their tracks!!!!

[liamkelly]

May 9, 2008, 3:47am, aimusic wrote:Liam - you a Saffer??? If So - I REJOICE THAT I'M NOT ALONE!!!!And let's not mention how even though I was the tender age of 9 when Apartheid ended - I somehow still get blamed for it... interesting....Hey Liam what's Tree 63 up to these days? I used to really dig their tracks!!!!AII didn't know you were a Saffa I lived in SA from 1990 til 2006. I'm an Irishman by birth though (easy, JD1 ) Wife's from 'Maritzburg.Funny you mention Tree63. I knew John Ellis back in 1996 when he used to regularly gig at the Bulldog in Durban with Pete. Such a talented guy. I remember Carlos Petro at Polygram had offered him and Scoop a deal in 1997 and at a showcase gig at The Station John just said, in the middle of the set, 'Carlos, we don't want your deal. We're a Christian band'. To deny Polygram at a time when they really wanted a deal really showed where he was at. Of course, the proof was in the pudding when they signed to Inpop and Blessed Be Your Name went to No 1 in the American CCM charts.The band moved to Nashville about 6 or 7 years ago and went from being an ambiguous Christian outfit to the much more heart on sleeve outfit that they are now. Funnily enough, I bought 'Sunday' (their new album) a few weeks ago and it's their best work to date. Christian or not, they have such a powerful message and are delivering it big time. Great songwriter, for my money.Glad to meetcha Liam

[wodinlord]

May 8, 2008, 10:09pm, milfus wrote:you ever mess with drum kit from hell, right now I am just using battery, and its good for looped music work, and I have orchestral production for my scoring, so its kind of a passive need, but I used to have drum kit from hell, and it was pretty damn spiffy, you could even set the mic bleeds and stuff, just wondering how it compared, cause I am probably going to invest in a good drum plug in the near futureCheck out BFD. Every kit piece is recorded with up to 12 mics or so as it would be in recording a complete kit. Up to 64 or so velocity layers. All the mics pic up every drum. You can adjust direct signal, bleed into overheads, room and ambient mics, even snare buzz bleed. The rooms are farther away, the ambients are PZMs, closer and to the sides more. So, every time a kit piece is struck, it is heard with all the mics and you can adjust them all for each kit piece. BFD2 even has a built in mixer that allows you to EQ, compress etc. every drum. You can completely mix to your liking within BFD w/o having to route them out to separate channels. But, you can do that too. You can even set it up to randomize and slightly vary the hits so that you hear the drummer hit the drums in slightly different places, just like a real drummer. There are a ton of drum kits included plus expansion packs for Jazz drums, Marching bands, percussion, etc. They were recorded in a great London studio using cool vintage and modern kits and the sounds are awesome. It is less a sample of drums and more a real recording of drums that play where you tell them. I have always been a connoisseur of fine drum tones and known for getting great drum sounds and I am very impressed by it. Before this, I always used drum samples that I recorded myself, because they were better than what I could buy, but these are awesome. BTW, you can use your own samples in it too. If you can program like a drummer, it will sound like a real drummer. It is like the Miroslav Philharmonik equivalent for drums.To each his own, but you really should at least check it out.Wodinlord

[bigbluebarry]

Wodinlord... is BFD 2 easier to use than BFD lite? Or, less confusing, at least in regards as to creating the actual midi data? I have EZ Drummer and really like how easy it is to drag-and-drop the grooves. But I do feel limited in the amount of sounds that I can get.

[wodinlord]

BBB,BFD2 is a totally different way of working than Lite. It is much easier to mix within the program and balance the room and ambience mics. It is set up like a mixer to adjust levels and EQ. You can audition grooves and pull them onto your Midi track and it seems to be easier to audition them than Lite. However, I don't really use the grooves much, I find it easier to program myself. I only use it to grab fills once in a while. It does have a bit of a learning curve, but will be worth it once you get past it.Wodinlord

[bigbluebarry]

I'll definitely have to check it out, but it's down a few notches on my "gear to get list". Got a pre-amp, compressor and some mic's ahead of it in the list.