Sonic Implants vs Vienna Phil - advise needed

[ibanez468]

georginasaint,Using XP to run all my VI's & DAWs on. No problemo! Won't switch to Vista just yet. Only speaking for myself here. Besides, can't afford it right now anyhow.I-468

[nickbatzdorf]

Quote: The Vienna player also requires that you open a new instance of their player for every track. It relies heavily on a matrix structure and the use of controllers which is somewhat new for me and really different than any other player I have worked with. I can see where it has advantages in terms of incorporating patch or articulation changes within a single track. That said, I am also not real happy with the sounds in general, especially the initial attacks in some of their sustain and legato patches. They tend to swell in which I find a little annoying at times.You need a new instance of the player for every *instrument*. If you set it up right, you can get by with a single player for violins, another one for voilas, flutes, etc. I think that once you get comfortable using the player you'll appreciate how brilliant it is. The idea is to make it so you don't need 25 tracks of violin, each with a separate articulation. Plus it does a lot of automatic articulation-switching, and you can do a lot of it in real time.If you're having problems with swelling articulations, you're not using the right ones. I haven't worked with the Special Edition yet, but I'm sure that it has some faster articulations and ones that aren't espressivo or whatever the Italians call it.But I'm a fan of all the major libraries. They all work, and they all have strengths that the others don't have.

[kurtkreimier]

Quote:I'm interested to know what version of Windows everyone is running these virtual orchestras and DAWs on because I have Vista now and some people are saying DAWs don't work on Vista and some people are saying there's no problem. GeorginaI use XP Pro but I know there are people here on this forum that run Vista without any problems. I have heard that the issue with Vista is not so much software compatibility but with drivers. I certainly know of some people who are running Cakewalk Sonar 6 and newer DAW's who are not having problems. On the flip side I have also seen some who have had problems. It would certainly be best to check with whoever you are planning to purchase your DAW and sample libraries from to check for any compatibility issues. Most of these companies also have user forums such as this where you can check out what their users have experienced.Kurt

[kurtkreimier]

Quote:Quote: The Vienna player also requires that you open a new instance of their player for every track. It relies heavily on a matrix structure and the use of controllers which is somewhat new for me and really different than any other player I have worked with. I can see where it has advantages in terms of incorporating patch or articulation changes within a single track. That said, I am also not real happy with the sounds in general, especially the initial attacks in some of their sustain and legato patches. They tend to swell in which I find a little annoying at times.You need a new instance of the player for every *instrument*. If you set it up right, you can get by with a single player for violins, another one for voilas, flutes, etc. I think that once you get comfortable using the player you'll appreciate how brilliant it is. The idea is to make it so you don't need 25 tracks of violin, each with a separate articulation. Plus it does a lot of automatic articulation-switching, and you can do a lot of it in real time.If you're having problems with swelling articulations, you're not using the right ones. I haven't worked with the Special Edition yet, but I'm sure that it has some faster articulations and ones that aren't espressivo or whatever the Italians call it.But I'm a fan of all the major libraries. They all work, and they all have strengths that the others don't have.Nick,After spending the little bit of time I have with the Vienna player I can see that it has some definite strengths which the others don't have, such as those you mention above. It is just forcing me to do things in a different way and I am still learning how to use it. I can see where it will ultimately make things easier, once I am able to utilize it to it's fullest. In terms of the samples I am still in a learning curve with those as well. Overall I really like the timbres which is why I have been blending them in with my EWQLSO Gold samples. They do seem to have a more rich and full sound that really adds to the overall quality of the sound. Thanks,Kurt

[davewalton]

Quote:I'm interested to know what version of Windows everyone is running these virtual orchestras and DAWs on because I have Vista now and some people are saying DAWs don't work on Vista and some people are saying there's no problem. I run Sonar 7, Reason 4, a bunch of plugins including EWQL stuff (orchestra, RA, Stormdrum, etc) on a quad-core PC running the Vista operating system with no problems. My soundcard is an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 which has Vista-specific drivers.