Co-writing and chemisty

[Casey H]

Quote:Quote:Just a note that it might not be a good idea to mention any specific names on here... Dad?Okay, I'm getting out of here before my sense of humor gets me into trouble. Too late...

[michael11]

Quote:This issue of co-writing and chemistry is so important to folks like us who often try to collaborate with people they meet on message boards like this one. Some great things have come out of such collabs, no doubt. But my guess is the large majority of them fall apart due to lack of chemistry, style differences, egos, control issues, etc. Many of us (like me!) have control issues and that’s not a negative judgment. I find I have a hard time because I want to do it my way and keep control. But the silly thing is many songs never get finished or get any better while I hold on to that control.My own personal experience with successful on-line collaborations has only been when done as follows: One person is the owner or “Captain” and the other person feeds ideas such as lyrics, lyrical phrases, words, a bridge, a change in chords, etc. The Captain, for the most part, makes the final decisions. The Captain is usually the person who started the song. In a lot of ways, this is how Lennon and McCartney did it.My song, “Adrenaline” was collaboration. A lyricist from Australia found me on a web site and sent me some lyrics. I took many of the words and built a song around it, though I didn’t use the exact words. I was the Captain. The lyricist let me run with it. Another co-write, “Marry Me”, grew out of a songwriter I met on-line having music but no lyrics. I wrote lyrics, but she made some edits and had final say as the leader. Attempts to collaborate without a clear leader usually fell apart. Now, this is just MY experience. Yours might be different. Thoughts? PS Yes, Art was very important to the success of S&G... His harmonies were awesome and his solos ("For Emily..." and "Bridge...") were phenomenal... CaseyHi Casey,I have been thinking for some time about asking if you might be interested in a collab.I have zillions of tunes but not much in the way of lyrics although I do have some ideas.I am currently wrestling with logic 7'2 and slowly making progress toward reasonable sounding demo's. Still got some way to go. Talking of leaders,I am not so much of a Captain more of an Admiral. What do you think?I know this may sound like a joke but I am serious.

[Casey H]

Quote: Talking of leaders,I am not so much of a Captain more of an Admiral. I'm getting seasick already, Admiral... hee hee I'm booked pretty heavily right now, but let's keep in touch about it... Do I have to know "port" from "stern"and all that sort of stuff?

[arkjack]

Yeah..... casey lives up the road from me on the other side of the park..... we still have yet to get a session together and thats after a year of talkin about it..... I guess its cause I go and do too much fishing and playing gigs at the beach where I can chase girlz in bikinis...... Maybe in a couple weeks when the cold fronts come in and the fishing stops.... ArkJack

[elser]

Cheech and Chong...."My mamma talka to me try to tell me how to live....ba da da... da da da...da...da...da!"

[Mark Kaufman]

I'm surprised no one mentioned Goffin-King. I always thought the strange relationship they shared was worth a movie.(I'm glad no one mentioned Hugh Grant and Drew Barrymore... )

[squidlips]

Until you did. Man, that was a truly terrible partnership, wasn't it?

[webslinger]

I always admired the work of Fred Flinstone and Barney Rubble, personally.

[jchitty]

Quote:I always admired the work of Fred Flinstone and Barney Rubble, personally.Yeah, but Wilma and Betty were the real power behind the throne.