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Re: TAXI Whore

Post by wignelson » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:59 am

Apr 28, 2009, 9:05pm, reasondemon wrote:hi Wig,I'm not too familiar with this genre but here's what I picked up when listening to this new mix:I like the Chords U used at the Chorus parts... and I especially like the Instrumental Break very much...U have a very unusual style man.-KelThanks very much, Kel.Glad you liked the song.Wig

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Post by matthoggard » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:56 am

Wig,Ive liked several of your tunes. I voted for you over at "the ramp" and I hope you win that title. You are obviously passionate about your songs and I respect that alot but what Ive learned in the past year of rejections and critiques is that If Im going to make it as a songwriter then I have to quit writing for myself. A great piece of advice to me recently is my new mantra."Amateur songwriters write what they want to hear."Professional songwriters write what other people want to hear."Plain and simple, it sucks but thats how it is. It has nothing to do with originality or sounding like someone, its all about having the right sounding piece of music for that exact moment in time. The a'la's are just reference points. Your a really talented writer and I think you have a great vision for music. Id say that you also have the ego to go with it. I dont mean that in a bad way, we have to have some ego to survive the scrutiny we receive. I think your ego is getting in the way of your objectivity about your songs. I have had the same problem and its taken me a year to realize that. Im sorry youre so cynical about the whole TAXI thing. Ive been there but Im also learning and getting experience I would not have gotten without joing TAXI. Youll find a place for your songs. There are dozens of Indie labels out there. Try some cold calls like BillG said. It might very well be worth your while.Matt

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Re: TAXI Whore

Post by geo » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:36 am

Just popped in for a sec (1st day off in 3 weeks!!)... I always miss the good stuff...Wig, sorry to see you go buddy.... The beauty of the internet is you don't need Taxi or anyone else if you just want to be heard...You'll find your niche....Peace, Geo

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Re: TAXI Whore

Post by geo » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:37 am

Apr 19, 2009, 8:45pm, cameron wrote:Apr 19, 2009, 3:23pm, wignelson wrote:[quote author=toddt board=peer thread=13154 post=132774 time=1240181754]If you haven't found anything worth while that I have posted lately, rejoice. Now you don't have to waste any time listening to it anymore.Wig Well I may not rejoin Taxi when my membership runs out either, but I hope I'm a bit more gracious about it. Ditto, it's been a great experience, if not a successful one ...Peace, Geo

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Post by geo » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:38 am

Apr 20, 2009, 8:44am, cameron wrote:Apr 20, 2009, 5:58am, wignelson wrote:Sorry if I sound ungracious to you, Cam. I was responding to a guy who says he's listened to my "stuff" and dismissed it as uninteresting.I seriously doubt that he has heard more than a few of my tunes.When someone says that to you, remember to be gracious. All I said was, rejoice, now you don't have to bother with it anymore.Wig Not to worry Wig. I should have just kept my mouth shut. You're a talented guy and you'll find your niche if you haven't already. I wish you the best of success.Cam[/quote]I think Cam and I are sharing a brain...

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Re: TAXI Whore

Post by wignelson » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:05 am

Apr 29, 2009, 5:56am, matthoggard wrote:Wig,Ive liked several of your tunes. I voted for you over at "the ramp" and I hope you win that title. You are obviously passionate about your songs and I respect that alot but what Ive learned in the past year of rejections and critiques is that If Im going to make it as a songwriter then I have to quit writing for myself. A great piece of advice to me recently is my new mantra."Amateur songwriters write what they want to hear."Professional songwriters write what other people want to hear."Plain and simple, it sucks but thats how it is. It has nothing to do with originality or sounding like someone, its all about having the right sounding piece of music for that exact moment in time. The a'la's are just reference points. Your a really talented writer and I think you have a great vision for music. Id say that you also have the ego to go with it. I dont mean that in a bad way, we have to have some ego to survive the scrutiny we receive. I think your ego is getting in the way of your objectivity about your songs. I have had the same problem and its taken me a year to realize that. Im sorry youre so cynical about the whole TAXI thing. Ive been there but Im also learning and getting experience I would not have gotten without joing TAXI. Youll find a place for your songs. There are dozens of Indie labels out there. Try some cold calls like BillG said. It might very well be worth your while.MattThanks for the advice, Matt. I was kind of hoping you would voice an opinion about the song or the mix.I wouldn't make a big deal about this TAXI thing that you refer to. It's not a big deal to me anymore. I was hoping TAXI would make a connection for me to be a writer. That's what I do, write songs.Now, if I were an artist, I might have more luck with TAXI. I don't plan on renewing my membership, but only because TAXI is not for me. As a writer, (not a performing artist anymore) I will just park my songs in libraries in three or four genres. The point being that I forgot that priceless advice that I was given in college 30 years ago. That is: "When someone asks you for money, run the other way."I think it's enough for the library to get half the proceeds of your work. When someone asks you for money to expose you to the library, you might want to think better about it. That's just my opinion.Alternative country is not a genre that I write in usually, I just played around with Taxi Whore to experiment. I'm sorry people can't get by the bitterness in the lyrics. Funny, when Alanis Morriset sings bitter lyrics, people don't get all bent out of shape about it. But the song does need a bridge. I may still share my work with this forum, but I share my work on a half dozen forums. I think I just won Song of the Month over at SongRamp. That's quite an honor. I'm sure I'll see you around. Good luck with your music.Wig

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Re: TAXI Whore

Post by matthoggard » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:59 am

Other than the song being very long, I think this is a very cool song."No bell prize", great play on words.The mix is decent. The drums/percussion could maybe be cleared up a little. The overall guitars have a flamenco feel. I really dig that. The piano is a little staccato for my taste. It sounds like you were trying for a honky tonk feel but I think if it had more flow to it it would fit the song a little better.Great lyrics and the melody is really nice. I think if you sped the tempo up some and shortened the song by a verse and chorus this could get placed fairly easily.Sure people might be scared of the title but who cares ya know?I like it. For an experimentation its got a great vibe to it.Matt

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Post by mazz » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:39 pm

"The point being that I forgot that priceless advice that I was given in college 30 years ago. That is: "When someone asks you for money, run the other way."I think it's enough for the library to get half the proceeds of your work. When someone asks you for money to expose you to the library, you might want to think better about it. That's just my opinion."Wow, Wig, that's some great marketing by TAXI, they actually contacted you out of the blue and asked you to give them money so they could get your music in to libraries? Most of the people I know actually chose to join and pay the fee.I respect your opinion but it sounds like you're not taking responsibility for your actions. But that's just my opinion, too.Good luck in your music career.Mazz
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Post by crs7string » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:47 pm

Apr 29, 2009, 12:05pm, wignelson wrote:Apr 29, 2009, 5:56am, matthoggard wrote:Wig,Ive liked several of your tunes. I voted for you over at "the ramp" and I hope you win that title. You are obviously passionate about your songs and I respect that alot but what Ive learned in the past year of rejections and critiques is that If Im going to make it as a songwriter then I have to quit writing for myself. A great piece of advice to me recently is my new mantra."Amateur songwriters write what they want to hear."Professional songwriters write what other people want to hear."Plain and simple, it sucks but thats how it is. It has nothing to do with originality or sounding like someone, its all about having the right sounding piece of music for that exact moment in time. The a'la's are just reference points. Your a really talented writer and I think you have a great vision for music. Id say that you also have the ego to go with it. I dont mean that in a bad way, we have to have some ego to survive the scrutiny we receive. I think your ego is getting in the way of your objectivity about your songs. I have had the same problem and its taken me a year to realize that. Im sorry youre so cynical about the whole TAXI thing. Ive been there but Im also learning and getting experience I would not have gotten without joing TAXI. Youll find a place for your songs. There are dozens of Indie labels out there. Try some cold calls like BillG said. It might very well be worth your while.MattThanks for the advice, Matt. I was kind of hoping you would voice an opinion about the song or the mix.I wouldn't make a big deal about this TAXI thing that you refer to. It's not a big deal to me anymore. I was hoping TAXI would make a connection for me to be a writer. That's what I do, write songs.Now, if I were an artist, I might have more luck with TAXI. I don't plan on renewing my membership, but only because TAXI is not for me. As a writer, (not a performing artist anymore) I will just park my songs in libraries in three or four genres. The point being that I forgot that priceless advice that I was given in college 30 years ago. That is: "When someone asks you for money, run the other way."I think it's enough for the library to get half the proceeds of your work. When someone asks you for money to expose you to the library, you might want to think better about it. That's just my opinion.Alternative country is not a genre that I write in usually, I just played around with Taxi Whore to experiment. I'm sorry people can't get by the bitterness in the lyrics. Funny, when Alanis Morriset sings bitter lyrics, people don't get all bent out of shape about it. But the song does need a bridge. I may still share my work with this forum, but I share my work on a half dozen forums. I think I just won Song of the Month over at SongRamp. That's quite an honor. I'm sure I'll see you around. Good luck with your music.Wig Wig,I think you have already made it very clear on this Forum that TAXI is not a fit for you. I think it may be time to move on to a new subject. Just my opinion, but I am a little tired of your ongoing "digs" about the TAXI business model, especially in light of the fact the same model is working for me and many others on this Forum.Again, just my opinion, it's becoming a little insulting and continues to demonstrate to me that your have some studying to do about how the business really works.Chuck
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Re: TAXI Whore

Post by wignelson » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:09 pm

[/quote]Wig,I think you have already made it very clear on this Forum that TAXI is not a fit for you. I think it may be time to move on to a new subject. Just my opinion, but I am a little tired of your ongoing "digs" about the TAXI business model, especially in light of the fact the same model is working for me and many others on this Forum.Again, just my opinion, it's becoming a little insulting and continues to demonstrate to me that your have some studying to do about how the business really works.Chuck[/quote]OK, you can chill now, Chuck. I asked for this thread to die out at the end of page one. Talking to Casey, I said, this thread has to die.I think that others are throwing a little gas on the fire. You may not agree, but you had your opinion and I have mine. The post above by Mazz suggests that TAXI contacted me out of the blue, or that I made such a claim.I could defend that position by reiterating that it was "my error" by forgetting that hard and fast rule. In other words, I bought into it. I have learned better what is for me and don't recall insulting you as to your utilization of TAXI's business model.Let me guess, you guys are divorce lawyers, right?

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