2 out of 3 ain't bad...Doo Wop forwards! wooHOO!!

[tedsingingfox]

Personally, I can't imagine why they didn't go for 3 out of 3, but I ain't going to argue with a 66% forward ratio. YeeHA!!! So my song "Never" and the group's song "Love Me, Baby" were both forwarded for the Doo Wop listing!!! And to make this opportunity available to all of us, we decided to split the songwriting credits on all three of them into (3) equal parts...I can't wait to email Dwayne and Chris to let them know... wooHOO!!!Love Me, Babyhttp://www.taximusic.com/song.php?song_id=1112 ... tream=1But for some reason, THIS one did NOT get forwarded...I'm Readyhttp://www.taximusic.com/song.php?song_id=111201&stream=1I'm not going to worry about it. This is terrific news, considering I haven't had a forward since January... (of course, it hasn't helped that I've had nothing to submit for months... )A very Happy...Ted

[hummingbird]

my turn to do somersaults but man, I ain't surprised AT ALL cause your tunes are just FAB

[devin]

Nicely done!The only thing I could think of was the lead vocal on "I'm Ready" didn't come through quite loud enough on my AKG-240's? Great stuff none-the-less...It's all good Ted!!!

[llama]

Waaa hooo Ted,Excellent news, but not surprising. Maybe a little surprising that all three didn't get through.....but still good.Derek

[ibanez468]

Way ta' go Teddy! Congrats to ya'!I-468

[rlcmusic]

First of all, congratulations Ted - that is great news - I really enjoyed listening to them when you first posted them.I hope you don't mind me asking this here but it is a very general question that your post has brought up in my mind. It's regarding your sentence:- "And to make this opportunity available to all of us, we decided to split the songwriting credits on all three of them into (3) equal parts...."As I haven't been involved in T.V/Film or collaborations - I'm wondering how this works? Please understand I just want to understand this generally. I know that if the recording was a work for hire - the songwriter keeps all the rights etc... but using the example above - if 3 people are named as the songwriters for this opportunity, surely those 3 names have to go down as the creators of that song wherever? (the US copyright office etc...) ie: if an artist comes along and whats to "cover" one of these songs - then that royalty would have to be split to the 3 writers? Again please understand that I'm really wanting to understand this topic and not question your decisions Ted! In my mind you wrote the song and your friends helped perform it (that's the scenario I am trying to create anyway) - so I see you as the songwriter and all 3 of you as input to this particular sound recording and you would like to reward them. Can there not be a contract between the songwriter and all other parties involved for that particular sound recording saying if any revenue is generated from that sound recording etc.......? On the same "cover" idea.....if you wanted to re-record this song next year in a rock style....with new musicians who you also wanted to reward......Sorry if this is confusing and I have lost the plot but it's not clear at all. Thank you to anyone who can answer these questions....And once again - congratulations Ted - I'm sure they'll get picked up Rachel

[billg]

great news Ted, you deserve it!

[tedsingingfox]

Apr 18, 2008, 12:56am, rlcmusic wrote:First of all, congratulations Ted - that is great news - I really enjoyed listening to them when you first posted them.I hope you don't mind me asking this here but it is a very general question that your post has brought up in my mind. It's regarding your sentence:- "And to make this opportunity available to all of us, we decided to split the songwriting credits on all three of them into (3) equal parts...."As I haven't been involved in T.V/Film or collaborations - I'm wondering how this works? Please understand I just want to understand this generally. I know that if the recording was a work for hire - the songwriter keeps all the rights etc... but using the example above - if 3 people are named as the songwriters for this opportunity, surely those 3 names have to go down as the creators of that song wherever? (the US copyright office etc...) ie: if an artist comes along and whats to "cover" one of these songs - then that royalty would have to be split to the 3 writers? Again please understand that I'm really wanting to understand this topic and not question your decisions Ted! In my mind you wrote the song and your friends helped perform it (that's the scenario I am trying to create anyway) - so I see you as the songwriter and all 3 of you as input to this particular sound recording and you would like to reward them. Can there not be a contract between the songwriter and all other parties involved for that particular sound recording saying if any revenue is generated from that sound recording etc.......? On the same "cover" idea.....if you wanted to re-record this song next year in a rock style....with new musicians who you also wanted to reward......Sorry if this is confusing and I have lost the plot but it's not clear at all. Thank you to anyone who can answer these questions....And once again - congratulations Ted - I'm sure they'll get picked up RachelFirst, thanks to ALL of y'all. Really appreciate the support. I'm thrilled about these getting forwarded.THEN, Rachel, let me clarify and maybe it will help.When I wrote "Never", there were a couple of spots in the lyrics I wasn't sure about. So, when Dwayne, Chris and I got together to hear what we had come up with, I asked them to help me solidify those spots. It was sorta like our own "Mad Libs" session. They helped me fill in the blanks with two lines (about 10-15 words, total). And I offered to give the two of them 25% of the songwriting credits, to split between them, for the help. They jumped at it. When Dwayne brought in "I'm Ready" and "Love Me, Baby", he was in the same place, and we had the same agreement when they were done/finished.I own the copyright (out right) to "Never", but I had no way of knowing if Dwayne had copyrighted either of his two songs. (And it's worth noting that the break-up of our acapella group was bitter and ugly, but I've never doubted the quality of the songs we wrote together.)When I saw this listing, I thought the best way to get the rest of the guys to cooperate (and give all THREE of these tunes a chance to make some money) was to offer Dwayne and Chris an equal share of songwriter credits, in the hopes Dwayne would make the same offer for his other two songs. It worked, and now EVERYBODY has the chance to make some money, instead of NOBODY making a dime.I have NO way of really knowing if that helps, at all. I just figure it's better to share the wealth than to continue bickering and never get any of those songs in the pipeline.Let me know if you need more detail or if I've totally missed your question altogether... TedAnd thanks, again, to all of you.

[rlcmusic]

Hi Ted,Thanks for your reply - I can see it makes perfect sense in your situation. Best wishes,Rachel

[feaker]

Congrats Ted. Why they didn't latch on to all three surprises me. Like I said before, those were some of the best I had heard here in the forums. Sincerely Paul