Hip hop track for review

[ciskokidd]

I feel ya man, but I gave up a long time ago complaining about how the music in the past was so much better. Then I take a listen to some of the old records I was so into and realize - mmm, not so good after all.It's all relative man. I say make the music that moves you and keep moving forward. I hated "I'm In Love With A Stripper", but then I heard some other stuff from T-Pain and was like okay I get it. Sure everyone jumped on the bandwagon, but that's the way it goes in the pop world. What surprises me is when really good singers start using the T-Pain style - like what?!!How many times do we get an artist or producer that hits and then you start hearing everyone doing the same thing. Just do your thing man.Best,Cisko

[ig88]

I hear you, i didnt really say past music was better, i was talking about current music. New music is always being made, what a waste on only listen to classic rock or any artist that is no longer making music. Finding things close or something else that triggers you. Once Thom Yorke picks up a vocoder i will cry.

[southpaw]

Quote:The first sign of beginner production is a dry drum kit.Quote:Well I agree with the above. I am not trying to be a "snob" I just feel that people are very mislead. Ok yes, people love to listen to T-pain and all of that recycled production that has been happening for way too long but when does it end? If producers keep fueling the fire to make money (which is amazing if they can, power to them) where is the line between creating experimental art and just making what people think they want to hear? Art is marketable just people never hear so much beautiful work being created. Once they are exposed a lot of them wondered how they ever could let radio freq's diminish their intelligence. Really? car's? Ho's? A sloppy hook thats a sexual metaphor repeated over and over until its stuck in your head. Charts is one thing, making music that expresses your true emotions, for yourself, maybe making enough to have some top ramen and rent so you can continue doing what you love that is successful to me. Most of what I was talking about was using pre made drum loops is not production IMO. I never specificly insulted anyone, I also never told Patrick he should not be a producer! I only explained there are way more original ways to go about production then purchasing samples. I personally enjoy heated discussions like this. No hard feelings to anyone here.After reading the thread, Steve and Cisko have already given you the heads up. ;-)This first sign of a beginning producer... ..What are you talking about? Ease up on the condescending tip, and dont make snide comments to Patrick, a knowledgeable contributor around here.You sound not only naive but ignorant with your comments, especially because you are talking about hip hop... The foundation of hip hop music is taking something already created, and creatively turning it into something new. This is the same fundamental concept of all urban music, since 'the blues'.. Thats not to take away from the authentic artistry of this music, becuase, in most respects, all music has evolved from other peoples 'ideas' and sounds, and then blended with their own unique characteristics/ideas/sounds. It might be helpful to reread the statements you have made, because they make you sound like a Producah' yourself.

[ig88]

I agree, take something and make something new. Not take loops and call them our own. Thats all i was saying. So thanks for the ego tokens, maybe i can cash them in and be a mainstream rapper now? Patrick nows i was making no "snide" comments. We have already pondered colab.

[partyofone]

hey guys, yeah no hard feelings.. I certainly can relate to being disappointed in the unoriginality of much popular music, be it hip-hop, rock, or whatever. I'm certainly no expert and I as write that I'm hearing drier drums in most mainstream hip-hop there's some hit climbing the charts with the wettest snare ever ha ha. no wrong way of course, but some of the taxi listings do cater to trends in mainstream music.and certainly nothing wrong with having a strong opinion.. I think around this forum we just tend to take more of the approach like there isn't necessarily a right and wrong way to go about things. people give good advice but it's definitely given with a dose of humility. also I do dig madlib and checked out the other mc's you listed... pretty good stuff. I'd never heard eligh. that being said...how'd the track end up Damian?

[orest]

I liked the song and the sound, it's a very wide and broad mix, you have really used all the space!! Maybe I agree with the handclaps, a litte too in front of you! I can picture this song in a Comedy/Thriller, Something like Oceans 11.

[prez]

Feb 19, 2009, 2:36pm, ig88 wrote:If you pay for samples you should not be a producer. Field record and process samples through effects. Seriously no reverb on drums?Are you kidding? The first sign of beginner production is a dry drum kit. This is wrong from the word get, especially for hip hop.There's not a thing wrong with paying for samples as long as you give them your own tweak by running them through ReCycle or modifying them to where they don't sound canned.I agree that the claps need to kill the reverb and the drums need to be more dry and in your face using reverb as an enhancer that you can't hear to give them more presence.The responses given early really did a nice job with explaining things so I'll just let it stand at that.Just a little more study and research into the genre will give you more of a feel for that sound you're reaching for. Unique piece.