"Aesop"

[wignelson]

As in the fables. I'm so full of fables that my eyes are brown. Not sure if there is a listing for something like this. Possibly A/C or Folk. Very few folk listings though.http://www.taximusic.com/song.php?song_ ... true"Aesop" By Wig Nelsonc. 1979Hawk caught a nightingale for his preyShe pleaded with a song to be on her wayThe hawk had only one thing to sayI'd rather have a meal than a song today(Chorus)Aesop Aesop fable or trueThe song of the nightingale travels with youNay is it melody nay only loreSong of the nightingale plays evermore Ahh Ahh Ahh etc.The woods were quiet and the air was stillFox came along and he had his fillIt seemed at the time that the trees were bareBut the nightingale's song was in the air(Chorus)Fox got caught in a hunter's eyeAnd all through the woods you could hear his cryIt seemed to the man a peculiar wailWas a lot like the sound of a nightingale(Chorus) The man got caught in a summer stormA thunderbolt hit and it changed his formHis body lies down by a dogwood treeAnd the nightingale's song plays harmony(Chorus)

[ideascapes]

wig,Cool haunting quality here, and I hear the folk influence too. I thought the vocal matched the feel of the song well.Distacting for me, though, was all the rhythmic things going on. I think there were 2 guitars, bass, strings, and drums (+ vocalists), all playing/singing rhythmically. It's super tough to get that many instruments in sync--as a listener, I wasn't sure which should have been holding the pulse of the song. I'd probably experiment with a new mix first: bring the guitars down, drums up, then see if you need to raise the strings (they seemed to have some cool lines going on, but I couldn't quite make them out). While the vocalists are singing, I'd try not to have any competing rhythmic instruments (unless they're keeping a pretty steady pulse).Definitely not A/C. Folk, yes (but not Americana, obviously). Based on the lyric, I could argue that the title of this should be "The Nightingale."Hope this helps!Vince

[wignelson]

Nov 23, 2008, 12:27pm, ideascapes wrote:wig,Cool haunting quality here, and I hear the folk influence too. I thought the vocal matched the feel of the song well.Distacting for me, though, was all the rhythmic things going on. I think there were 2 guitars, bass, strings, and drums (+ vocalists), all playing/singing rhythmically. It's super tough to get that many instruments in sync--as a listener, I wasn't sure which should have been holding the pulse of the song. I'd probably experiment with a new mix first: bring the guitars down, drums up, then see if you need to raise the strings (they seemed to have some cool lines going on, but I couldn't quite make them out). While the vocalists are singing, I'd try not to have any competing rhythmic instruments (unless they're keeping a pretty steady pulse).Definitely not A/C. Folk, yes (but not Americana, obviously). Based on the lyric, I could argue that the title of this should be "The Nightingale."Hope this helps!VinceThanks, Vince. yeah, I've gotten that comment before on this song. Needs layering. Someone said they heard two songs going on at the same time. Ouch!I might redo this one. It's been around for so long, (notice the copyright date) I think it has legs.I wish I had your string patches. What do you use? East West?Wig

[ideascapes]

I have East/West, Giga 3, and Kontakt 3. The Giga samples are great, but the program demands a dedicated computer and I'm not doing that, so I have to live with dropped notes.Yes, I saw the 1979 copyright. On the redo, question is, can you live with it the way it is?V>

[wignelson]

Nov 23, 2008, 12:52pm, ideascapes wrote:I have East/West, Giga 3, and Kontakt 3. The Giga samples are great, but the program demands a dedicated computer and I'm not doing that, so I have to live with dropped notes.Yes, I saw the 1979 copyright. On the redo, question is, can you live with it the way it is?V>I thought I said I was interested in a redo. I'll have to examine what those words mean when the whiskey wears off.Wig

[kitz]

Wig,Really nice lyrics and moods set here!! I really like it!! As Vince said there is a lot going on. It's so hard to play very simple rhythms on guitar when you have to decide which beats to play and where not to play. As Fogelberg said - his greatest lesson was learning when NOT to play and I know what he meant. It's a constant learning. I have had to do it over and over with song after song. Start as simply as possible. One or two strums per bar on guitar. You can always add stuff to it but you can't take out stuff that you later wish were not there without a lot more work. It's alot harder than playing what you feel but the effect in the long run is you have all this room left to work with or to give other musicians who you may want to use. Not that there's anything wrong with the playing - it's just too much info for a listener to process at one time. I am being redundant and you get my drift so I'll sit down and shut up now.Good luck - it's a neat tune!!Kitz

[wrdsnmuzik]

This sounds like a good sketch of a song, a promising demo rather than a focused, finished piece. Suggest seriously cutting back on the guitar lines, or at least locking everything together. The good part: good melodic ideas, vocal harmonies, sweet wistful tone.

[feaker]

wigsGreat lyrics. Nice harmony in the first part of the chorus.Background stuff is a little busy, but that can't be too hard to fix?I say tweak and play it again Sam:)good luckPaul

[wignelson]

Thanks, Kitz, wrdsnmuzic and Paul,I'll give this one another shot and try to simplify the sound. I got a little carried away with piling things on instead of layering.But I think I've learned a little bit since I recorded this a few years ago.Wig