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Sublime Humility

Post by opensky » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:32 am

I just finished the first mix of a new tune, Sublime Humility. Story-wise it is the third part of a trilogy. You don't have to listen to them (unless you want of course). Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.http://soundclick.com/openSublime HumilityBy Steve Kim 2007Be my strength in the cold as blood overcomesa stronghold…trees point the waybut fear temptsme to strayfar away a melodythere's a song thatcalls me here somewhere...safety... searchlight in the night! night! night! night! Chorus (A): joyfully, you come rescue me, sublime humility left your throne just to carry me, sublime humilityaccepting me undeservingly, sublime humilityi was scorned, yet you honor me, sublime humilitylove descending down!love coming down!deadin your eyesmore than laws I defiedI brought shameto your nameyet your armsare open widesomewhere...safety...searchlight in the night! night! night! night!repeat Chorus Alove decending down!Chorus B:i was blind so that i could see, sublime humilityjealousy, infidelity, sublime humilityforgiving me undeservingly, sublime humilitytake me home to your crystal sea, sublime humilitylove descending down! love coming !

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Post by geo » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:56 am

Dude nice job, I remember your previous post this is a nice sequel. A couple of small points, the kick seems a little thin, sounds nice during the second verse but washes out during the choruses and I thought the vocal was a little pitchy in the first verse but I could be wrong there, really like these two songs... Geo

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Post by Casey H » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:14 pm

Hi SteveCool track and vibe. Most important is what is your goal with it? You mentioned that it was the third in a trilogy which makes me think you are more marketing your work as an artist. Are you pitching film/TV as well? If so, production, engineering and performance are big factors. I hope some others pop in and give you feedback in those areas.I'm not sure I follow all the lyrics as far as what you are trying to say. It's very (nicely) artistic and poetic but certainly not direct and leaves a lot to the imagination. This is why I asked about your goal. This is a work of art. In some types of pitches, things need to be a bit more direct. In no way I am I suggesting you stop being true to your art... But where you can plug a song varies widely with style.I'm glad I listened to this!Best, CaseyPS I popped into the peer review section looking to see if I could review a song from random threads... I picked this one because it had the lyrics included in the post as well as the link. I do recommend that when posting for reviews, folks post lyrics and music. It makes things so much easier.

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Post by opensky » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:21 pm

Quote:Dude nice job, I remember your previous post this is a nice sequel. A couple of small points, the kick seems a little thin, sounds nice during the second verse but washes out during the choruses and I thought the vocal was a little pitchy in the first verse but I could be wrong there, really like these two songs... GeoThanks Geo, always good to hear from you. Thanks for pointing out the kick. I'll see what i can do. As far as the part you feel is pitchy, could you identify it? Is there a particular word?

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Post by opensky » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:41 pm

Thank you Casey. You really have some poignant questionshere and I'm glad you asked them. What is my goal? It used to be making a living doing music. That's when I joined taxi but after a year, I realized that my goal was to be true to my art. Since my art is not very commercial and I'm not a performing artist on a regular basis, I felt it was unwise to continue Taxi unless my art and the market can somehow cross paths. I still like to present new songs on this board because I respect everyone's opinions and it may offer a clue when/if my art ever becomes marketable. But I feel my days of compromise are behind me as I've resigned myself to forego any ambitions of "making it" at the expense of sacrificing the art of music. I'm not against creating "commercial music," but for me, it cannot be contrived. If it happens, it happens. Just my two cents...Quote:Hi SteveCool track and vibe. Most important is what is your goal with it? You mentioned that it was the third in a trilogy which makes me think you are more marketing your work as an artist. Are you pitching film/TV as well? If so, production, engineering and performance are big factors. I hope some others pop in and give you feedback in those areas.I'm not sure I follow all the lyrics as far as what you are trying to say. It's very (nicely) artistic and poetic but certainly not direct and leaves a lot to the imagination. This is why I asked about your goal. This is a work of art. In some types of pitches, things need to be a bit more direct. In no way I am I suggesting you stop being true to your art... But where you can plug a song varies widely with style.I'm glad I listened to this!Best, CaseyPS I popped into the peer review section looking to see if I could review a song from random threads... I picked this one because it had the lyrics included in the post as well as the link. I do recommend that when posting for reviews, folks post lyrics and music. It makes things so much easier.

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Post by Casey H » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:06 am

Quote:Thank you Casey. You really have some poignant questionshere and I'm glad you asked them. What is my goal? It used to be making a living doing music. That's when I joined taxi but after a year, I realized that my goal was to be true to my art. Since my art is not very commercial and I'm not a performing artist on a regular basis, I felt it was unwise to continue Taxi unless my art and the market can somehow cross paths. I still like to present new songs on this board because I respect everyone's opinions and it may offer a clue when/if my art ever becomes marketable. But I feel my days of compromise are behind me as I've resigned myself to forego any ambitions of "making it" at the expense of sacrificing the art of music. I'm not against creating "commercial music," but for me, it cannot be contrived. If it happens, it happens. Just my two cents... Hi Steve I don't see the two things as necessarily mutually exclusive... i.e. working on your art and making commercially viable music. As you probably know, there is a huge market for film/TV replacement tracks- songs that sound like other artists, other decades, etc. For example, many older songs such as Queen from the 70's have very artistic lyrics. You obviously have the talent to write music that sounds like a variety of acts from the 70's to, even more recently, Coldplay. So why not do two things? Work on your own art for a CD to market AND write replacement tracks for film/TV to get some income. If you make it as an artist, you can decide whether to continue with the film/TV tracks but had some income to keep you going. If you don't make it, a little money never hurts. And who knows how you will feel in a few years?BTW, to the best of my knowledge, you do not have to market your film/TV tracks with the same artist name as you use for marketing yourself as an artist. Although 99% of the time it is a good idea to use the same name for the exposure, if you really feel that it conflicts with what's in your heart and soul, you can use different names. I'm not necessarily recommending that, just throwing it out there. (Writing and singing commercial jingles didn't seem to hurt Barry Mannilow though)...All the best, Casey

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Post by opensky » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:05 pm

Quote:Quote:Thank you Casey. You really have some poignant questionshere and I'm glad you asked them. What is my goal? It used to be making a living doing music. That's when I joined taxi but after a year, I realized that my goal was to be true to my art. Since my art is not very commercial and I'm not a performing artist on a regular basis, I felt it was unwise to continue Taxi unless my art and the market can somehow cross paths. I still like to present new songs on this board because I respect everyone's opinions and it may offer a clue when/if my art ever becomes marketable. But I feel my days of compromise are behind me as I've resigned myself to forego any ambitions of "making it" at the expense of sacrificing the art of music. I'm not against creating "commercial music," but for me, it cannot be contrived. If it happens, it happens. Just my two cents... Hi Steve I don't see the two things as necessarily mutually exclusive... i.e. working on your art and making commercially viable music. As you probably know, there is a huge market for film/TV replacement tracks- songs that sound like other artists, other decades, etc. For example, many older songs such as Queen from the 70's have very artistic lyrics. You obviously have the talent to write music that sounds like a variety of acts from the 70's to, even more recently, Coldplay. So why not do two things? Work on your own art for a CD to market AND write replacement tracks for film/TV to get some income. If you make it as an artist, you can decide whether to continue with the film/TV tracks but had some income to keep you going. If you don't make it, a little money never hurts. And who knows how you will feel in a few years?BTW, to the best of my knowledge, you do not have to market your film/TV tracks with the same artist name as you use for marketing yourself as an artist. Although 99% of the time it is a good idea to use the same name for the exposure, if you really feel that it conflicts with what's in your heart and soul, you can use different names. I'm not necessarily recommending that, just throwing it out there. (Writing and singing commercial jingles didn't seem to hurt Barry Mannilow though)...All the best, CaseyThanks Casey. I checked out your sight and it looks like you've done pretty well. I'm considering the idea of possibly doing something more practical using a different name. Thanks for making me think.

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Post by geo » Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:44 am

The last lines of the first three stanzas sound a little off, but I could be wrong, my ear's not the best... Geo

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Post by opensky » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:50 pm

Quote:The last lines of the first three stanzas sound a little off, but I could be wrong, my ear's not the best... GeoI believe what you are hearing is a dissonant note which is intentional. It all checks out in Melodyne.

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