New Song - "Dagger"

[rockmann]

Hi folks,Haven't been around for awhile. Funny how things can get so busy, so fast....We've got another tune nearing completion and we're hoping to get some feedback. The comments in here have always been VERY useful. The song is called 'Dagger'. It's a bit heavier than most of our stuff, but it's turning out pretty well I think.You can listen to the 'hi-fi' version in your default player here:http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamm3 ... 301&q=hiOr listen in Soundclick's player here:http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplaye ... &q=hiMixed in Adobe Audition. Guitars recorded via Boss GT6 (solo done via POD XTLive). Bass is is via bass pack for POD, I believe. Drums are Roland V-Drums with BFD Samples.Thanks for your thoughts and comments!

[aubreyz]

Quote:Hi folks,Haven't been around for awhile. Funny how things can get so busy, so fast....We've got another tune nearing completion and we're hoping to get some feedback. The comments in here have always been VERY useful. The song is called 'Dagger'. It's a bit heavier than most of our stuff, but it's turning out pretty well I think.You can listen to the 'hi-fi' version in your default player here:http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamm3 ... 301&q=hiOr listen in Soundclick's player here:http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplaye ... &q=hiMixed in Adobe Audition. Guitars recorded via Boss GT6 (solo done via POD XTLive). Bass is is via bass pack for POD, I believe. Drums are Roland V-Drums with BFD Samples.Thanks for your thoughts and comments!Hey Steve,I'll check it out again in the studio, but listening from home sounds pretty good. I will say that my first impression is that this track sounds more "together" if you know what I mean. Considering the long distance miracle that you guys pull off, I think it's pretty impressive.Kiind of interesting... I'm working hard to get the "80's" out of my stuff, and you guys are using it like a weapon There's something to be said for finding what you like, and doing it well, and you guys are doing just that! Nice work.Aub

[mixopenta]

Considering the gear used, the results you have there are very impressive! I also think it's a great song! IMO the guitars are a bit heavy on upper midrange though. The bass seems to be a bit out of place at times, and could use some more punch in the 100-250Hz area.About the drums, nothing really beats the real thing, and in general having sound moving through air is quite beneficial when recording this kind of music IMHO. You could try to run the bass through a cabinet to capture some "rawness" and edge without letting it be overpowering, but just blends in nicely with the guitars.Not a great fan of the 80's sound though, so you might take my suggestions with a pinch of salt All in all, great work!

[rockmann]

Quote:I'll check it out again in the studio, but listening from home sounds pretty good. I will say that my first impression is that this track sounds more "together" if you know what I mean. Considering the long distance miracle that you guys pull off, I think it's pretty impressive.Hey Aub! Thanks.. I agree. This one is one of our 'tighter' tunes. Don't know why specifically, but it definitely worked out that way. I'll be interested to hear what you think after listening in the studio. We're still learning how to use our limited tools and the global separation to our advantage. I think we're getting better at it with each song. Quote:Kiind of interesting... I'm working hard to get the "80's" out of my stuff, and you guys are using it like a weapon There's something to be said for finding what you like, and doing it well, and you guys are doing just that! Nice work.LOL! Thanks... it's either that or we just can't do anything else. It's funny that you say that though. Normally, I would agree with you, we are pretty 80's sounding, but I thought this was one of our more modern sounding songs. Just wishful thinking I guess.Thanks for listening and commenting. Good to 'talk' to you as it's been a while.Later!

[rockmann]

Quote:Considering the gear used, the results you have there are very impressive! I also think it's a great song! Thanks! I really appreicate that. Yes, we're somewhat limited by our gear, tools and being spread out around the world. But somehow or another, we're piecing it all together.Quote:IMO the guitars are a bit heavy on upper midrange though. The bass seems to be a bit out of place at times, and could use some more punch in the 100-250Hz area.This is where my limted experience hurts me the most, I think. EQs are done more by guessing and listening. I don't really know what's SUPPOSED to work. I actually added a bit of upper mids to the guitars to bring them out a bit. I might have over done it. Bass is another weakness. I'm looking for that perfect bass EQ/compression all the time. I really need Aub to fly out to Wisconsin and show me how it's done. Quote:About the drums, nothing really beats the real thing, and in general having sound moving through air is quite beneficial when recording this kind of music IMHO. You could try to run the bass through a cabinet to capture some "rawness" and edge without letting it be overpowering, but just blends in nicely with the guitars.I agree. I'm a firm believer that nothing beats the real McCoy. But, with our limitations in each location (no one has true studios) the V-drums and direct guitars are the workaround for us.Quote:Not a great fan of the 80's sound though, so you might take my suggestions with a pinch of salt All in all, great work! You know... I always learn more from folks that prefer different genres. It's usually a fresh perspective and normally sheds a good amount of light on the subject.Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment!

[hephaluemp]

Quote:Hi folks,Haven't been around for awhile. Funny how things can get so busy, so fast....We've got another tune nearing completion and we're hoping to get some feedback. The comments in here have always been VERY useful. The song is called 'Dagger'. It's a bit heavier than most of our stuff, but it's turning out pretty well I think.You can listen to the 'hi-fi' version in your default player here:http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamm3 ... 301&q=hiOr listen in Soundclick's player here:http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplaye ... &q=hiMixed in Adobe Audition. Guitars recorded via Boss GT6 (solo done via POD XTLive). Bass is is via bass pack for POD, I believe. Drums are Roland V-Drums with BFD Samples.Thanks for your thoughts and comments!hello Rockerman.I like your song, nice guitars.I'm listening on pc-speakers at the moment, and here the vocal sounds a little bit hard in the top.Well, the most obvious things, in my view:* - sloppy timing, espesially in the beginning, maybe use an hour or two in editing to make it a little more in time.* - a little dull snare, maybe use some distortion or parallel compression with a tape-emulator or something adding harmonics. In fact, all the drums could use a little parallel compression to make it pump a little.* - also for the vocals - try some parallel compression to make it thicker without loosing the dynamics.* the transitions from one part to another could need some work, now it's more like all the same all the time, maybe find place for some air somewhere in transitions.Hepha Luemp

[rockmann]

Hi Hepha,Thanks for the VERY constructive comments. I'll give each one a stab. I do have some over all compression on the drum bus, but maybe I can dial that in a bit more. I like the snare ideas. I'll be sure to try them out.Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment.Steve