need some feedback - "Win"

[hummingbird]

Is this just a mess or does it have some hope? Supposed to be an ambient new age-y sort of thing.http://www.vikkiflawith.com/song/4

[johnnydean1]

Quote:Is this just a mess or does it have some hope? Supposed to be an ambient new age-y sort of thing.http://www.vikkiflawith.com/song/4Vikki, I am not going to comment on this because it's not really my thing but the Broadjam player is Krap again!!Your song would play for a few seconds then stop for half a second and that happened all the way through.Don't send any of your client's there for a listen!!!!!

[davewalton]

Hi Vikki,My main comment is that I'd like to see you stick with the groove that you've established in the first 36 seconds. After that the drums are doing a lot of fills and the feel of the track (at least the feel that I got initially) is lost.I think that's a good groove and like some of the "CSI" music I sent sometime back, I think you could use that as the basis of most of the track, building it up, tearing it down, etc.It seems that you've been inspired and invigorated here lately. I love hearing stuff from the "new" Vikki. Dave

[Casey H]

VikkiThis is great film/TV background material. Actually it might be ripe for one of those "only need 30 seconds" projects that Michael was talking about in the video. Not that the whole track couldn't be used, in fact, it could...I could see this used in a suspense/horror situation. In fact, I recently was looking for "ghostly" material for someone.Not a mess at all! Just needs to be targeted for the right uses... Casey

[hummingbird]

Quote:Hi Vikki,My main comment is that I'd like to see you stick with the groove that you've established in the first 36 seconds. After that the drums are doing a lot of fills and the feel of the track (at least the feel that I got initially) is lost.I think that's a good groove and like some of the "CSI" music I sent sometime back, I think you could use that as the basis of most of the track, building it up, tearing it down, etc.It seems that you've been inspired and invigorated here lately. I love hearing stuff from the "new" Vikki. DaveThanks for the feedback, Dave. I've revised the track, keeping the drums more consistent and further back in the mix.I am inspired by the creativity and energy I see & hear on this board, for sure. In addition, I finally have the tools to create music the way I've yearned to for a while... lots of fun (when you aren't pulling your hair out )

[hummingbird]

Quote:VikkiThis is great film/TV background material. Actually it might be ripe for one of those "only need 30 seconds" projects that Michael was talking about in the video. Not that the whole track couldn't be used, in fact, it could...I could see this used in a suspense/horror situation. In fact, I recently was looking for "ghostly" material for someone.Not a mess at all! Just needs to be targeted for the right uses... CaseyThanks for the listen & the encouragement, Casey!

[53mph]

Hey Vikki,I'm just giving first impressions here. I like the general vibe and agree with what other people have said about the track. I like the stereo sounds floating around in my head and I was just wondering if you have tried doing the same with the vocals.Imagine if you had some of the vocals (which at present all seem to be central) floating in and out of the stereo field. There's a tool by Anarchy Effects called Spectral Autopan which I could recommend for such a thing.Another tool I've been playing with lately is Antares Avox Punch/Choir. I like to stick it on a Bus track and send a signal from the the vocal track to that Bus track (perhaps 20%). It beefs out the stereo image of the vocals making them sound a bit like Elliott Smith's vocals, without losing the central point of the vocals.Just some ideas that could be used in place of reverb.

[mixopenta]

Interesting track I may say. I listened to it, went out for a smoke and the song kept playing in my head. I agree with previous comments, but I would also like to add that you could definitely bring up the drum track in the mix (whatever groove you should decide to use in the end). IMHO these kind of tracks relies rather heavily of having a pretty solid groove, beat or rhythm of some kind. A slightly slower tempo might also add to a more mystic, suspended feeling. There are options as to what instrument or sound should contribute to the beat, it doesn't necessarily have to be drums. You might as well consider having one of the voices represent the rhythmic feel.I would also try building the track more, i.e. build in intensity, so there's a sense of "resolution" toward the end.

[davewalton]

Hi Vikki,I like this version MUCH better. The consistancy of the groove gives the listener something to hook onto. It's definitly closer to Electronica/Experimental than New Age. For this kind of track I think it's OK to stick with the basic groove and let it build and play itself out. You might want to think more about buildups and breakdowns. As I was listening I was expecting some kind of breakdown (with just one or two parts) at certain intervals, like after eight or sixteen bars. It changes itself up in various ways but at unpredictable intervals. In Electronica, at a spot where most people would expect some kind of chorus in a regular song, there is usually some kind of breakdown, where after building up individual sections, track by track every couple of measures, there's the equivalent of pulling the rug out from underneath the listener and letting them ride on just a beat or some kind of rhythmic part for a few measures. There's usually not much variation in the music itself (lots of repeatable loops) but it's the buildup and breakdown that gives Electronica tracks their interest.BTW, it sounds like it would be easy to do but I've found that walking the line between being too repitious and yet still giving the Electronica listener the repetitive groove that they expect is easier said than done. I've been working on an uptempo Electronica track and it's been giving me fits in terms of finding that balance. HTH,Dave