listings are misleading or not clear enough!

[crs7string]

Aug 9, 2009, 1:50pm, didger wrote:Hey Allen,Since you bring it up again, I actually thought that was a very inspiring listing and disappointed that I was too busy to do something for it. They're looking for "guitarists who also do sound design." If you don't know what they're talking about, then they're not looking for you. It's simple as that. As confounding as you and Chuck may have found that particular listing, I'm a guitarist and I've done some sound design for short films, and thought, "hey, that sounds fun!" Meanwhile there are heaps of listings you'd nail that I'd better not even try. I hope there will always be room left in this world for specialists who are good at what they do rather than the idea that everybody with a DAW and sample libraries should be equally able to nail any listing.And don't worry, nobody's on here screaming to tear Taxi down (although I'm sure it's happened before!) so I don't know why so many people feel the need to post in Taxi's defense. Problems can arise, so let's call attention to them so hopefully they don't happen again from Taxi's end, and/or we members can learn how to deal with it better. In this case with Brindabella, there's just no logical explanation or way to read the listing that justifies all the critiques. For a start, I assume that she had different screeners with extremely different viewpoints, as one song's critique stresses the "artist" part of the listing, one stresses the "composer" part, while the listing mentions both equally. The problem here isn't just that the listing was too difficult for users to decipher, it's that the screeners didn't seem to know either yet they still get to make the decisions. So I think it definitely needs to be addressed.I did submit a track for this acoustic guitar sound design listing. I posted the listing here simply to illustrate that listings with TAXI and outside of TAXI (in others words the production music business) are rather cryptic and have to be read and re-read until the important elements are latched on to and addressed.The final product I submitted to the acoustic guitar sound design request consisted of drum loops, percussion hits and drones in addition to acoustic guitar parts. All the loops etc. had an acoustic guitar as a sound source. A lot of tapping and slapping going on. Native Instruments has an effects expansion called Deep Transformations for Kore and I used it to totally morph the taps and slaps. Of course, I'll only know that it worked if I hear back from the listing party. There is no screening or critique at all for me to guage any success or failure.It was a fun project and will hopefully add a production approach to my bag of tricks.Chuck BTW I have made it a habit that when I have an issue with something to go directly to TAXI. I have had a couple of bits of feedback from our end users (owners of libraries) about something being played out on this Forum. I don't want to put forth the "public image" of someone who is potentially difficult to deal with and is constantly complaining about one thing or another. I think everyone has to develop their own philosophy about how they act on the Forum. Mine works well for me, it may not work for others.

[brindabella]

Again, not trying to bring down Taxi or anything like that. Just want to know why a listing that evidently was for orchestral pieces didnt include the ORCHESTRAL when they ran the listing, or didnt specify it when I called. Anyone can make a mistake, it happens. I just want to know what happened. I always said Taxi was a facilitator to get me from point A to point B. I just want to know who mentioned point C regarding this listing.

[sheringo]

Well, I may as well let out some of my frustrations regarding listings. Yes I am a newbie and as such, believe it is an art, to be able to target your music with a listing, for me anyway. I have decided to start my own music library, matching the required listings with the ala blah blah blah.I also emailed Taxi and asked if it would be possible to link past successful forwards (snips ) to the listings to give us muso's a feel of what they are looking for, this way we can then have a mood or feel for our creations. I hope I didn't do the wrong thing! I guess I'm just frustrated being a newbie and wanting to at least have a target to aim for instead of shooting myself in the foot Gracia's for listening amigos. DomingoSheringo.

[k o star]

Are we all paying to learn?

[wings]

Any word, Laura?~wings~

[dgraham]

Another thought might also be... they don't know exactly what they want until they hear it... sometimes leaving it as "general" as they can because they don't know until they hear it.

[georginasaint]

Hi Laura, and everyone else on this thread. I've only just found this thread. First let me say I submitted 3 pieces to this listing and 2 of them got forwarded. They were all orchestral but I didn't know they HAD to be, obviously, it's just what I write. Secondly, I also had great difficulties interpreting this listing and I emailed taxi for clarification. I've looked for their reply, but it was so unhelpful, I think I deleted it. I was very confused about them using the word "classical" in the first place. Did they mean they wanted ala Bach or Mozart? "Classical" composers these days tend to write contemporary style and often include electronic elements in their music, or modern percussion. How modern could a piece be? But look at this listing again: CLASSICAL COMPOSERS are wanted by the VP of an Independent Record Label who specializes in Classical, Jazz, Broadway, Ballet and Opera releases. They are looking for new talent to add to their catalog which already includes many internationally well-known artists and composers. You can submit either original or traditional/cover pieces that are in Public Domain only. Please submit two to three compositions online or per CD, include bio. See what I highlighted? I didn't read that as the listing was for composers AND/OR artists. I took that as the record label have artists on their catalog. The heading of this listings only asks for composers, not artists. I thought that part of it was clear. I do think it's funny that Moszkowski's composition didn't make the grade! It just shows you what a subjective thing this all is. And Laura, I heard that piece and it was incredible and so is your playing!I seriously think you should be refunded for this one as you put in 4 submissions. Georgie

[brindabella]

Georgie, I remember we discussed this one because we didnt understand it too well. I got an answer from Taxi and I still dont understand it, so I am still confused about what they wanted, but that will not keep me from trying in the future. If a listing like this surfaces again I dont know what I would do, either forget about that listing or calling again to clarify it and making a note of the person I speak to. This may help or not, who knows? Would you mind posting one of your forwards so maybe we have an idea what the heck that listing was about_? That might help or not, again, I am still confused

[georginasaint]

Laura, I've tried to post the music here but I can't get the number to show up when I right-click on the PLAY button, as I usually do, so I can't do it. Errgh, why is all this technology so frustrating...??? I'll try again later. One of them is called "Flight from Versailles" and I put it on P2P a couple of months ago, although I tweaked it quite a lot before I submitted it. Anyway, I do think this listing was a really strange one. Georgie