Pro Tools LE Only

[lboogie77]

I am sure we have all seen this listing as well as the others for various genre's. Maybe it is just me, but I am also sure there are many in taxi land who do not use Pro-Tools LE. Personally, even if I did, I would not want to hand over my midi data.We are a community of composers and artist's. We have all shared tips, tricks, and secrets to help aid one another. We have listened to each others material, given criticism, and pushed many to success. But I do not think any of us has gone as far as to post a project with midi data. There are some things we keep to ourselves. I dont know, but midi data is excruciatingly painful to give up."Fresh, current-sounding, RELAXING NEW AGE SONGS AND INSTRUMENTALS.... ....They also want original recordings from the composer, no samples from a synth or third party. They offer a negotiated fee between $500-$750 depending on the complexity of the composition and you retain 100% of your writer share. Very Important: You must use ProTools LE software, including all MIDI data, to record your songs, as that the format they need the songs to be delivered in (per their instructions). If you dont use ProTools LE, please do not submit to thislisting...."I know this is NOT Taxi's fault, just want to what others are thinking.Regards77www.taxi.com/lkeys(yes, I read your post Vikki, my name is on my page )

[lboogie77]

Yeh, the $500-700 is a nice plus. Some instant gratification rather than waiting on your PRO checks. Those are nice too! Midi was the clincher for me 2...

[matto]

I think you guys may be a little paranoid... No serious company with a track record would have time to sort thru your midi data and steal any "secret tricks" you may use in order to improve their own midi tracks...I'm sure the reason they want PT LE files rather than mixes is that this allows them to do custom stems and remixes according to their clients' specifications.The upside is, I've had several situations where a library I signed a song with years earlier has come back to me and requested a custom mix. These are often difficult and time consuming to pull off, especially if you've changed systems since doing the track (and you won't get paid extra or even be guaranteed that the song will be used).With this company, they would handle this sort of thing for you...which could ultimately save you considerable time and money.Yeah if you don't have PT LE or want to get it and transfer your data into it, you're out of luck, but c'est la vie...I don't use PT, but if I had time to submit to these listings I'd get PT LE and transfer my data into it...if my submissions were forwarded and an offer was on the table this would be a "hassle" I'd be happy to deal with.Just my 2 c...matto

[lboogie77]

If can send all audio....Seems they ask for total creation in LE. It says including all midi data. Not so much worried about secret midi tricks. Everybody pretty much knows everything. Just some things we (at least me and Kel) dont wanna share. Thanks for the insight Matto!77

[mer]

Thanks Matto for the further info! Much appreciated...

[Casey H]

Jul 10, 2009, 1:34pm, remmet wrote:I've been bothered by these listings. Would someone require, as a condition of employment, that John Williams only record his film music on MCI multitracks rather than Ampex (in the old days of analog)? I think not.If these companies need audio stems for later tweaking, you could provide aiff bounces of each track. They could easily import the files into ProTools. If they need midi data, you could provide them with a standard midi file of your piece.These restrictions leave a lot of people out in the cold.RichardI understand the frustration with these listings. I get disappointed when I start reading, think I may have something, and then see I have to have Pro Tools (and the ability to use it!)...BUT, it's the listing parties that set the requirements, not Taxi. That leaves Taxi 2 choices-- run the listings or not. Which would you prefer? Casey

[remmet]

Jul 10, 2009, 5:22pm, hurowitz wrote:Jul 10, 2009, 1:34pm, remmet wrote:I've been bothered by these listings. Would someone require, as a condition of employment, that John Williams only record his film music on MCI multitracks rather than Ampex (in the old days of analog)? I think not.If these companies need audio stems for later tweaking, you could provide aiff bounces of each track. They could easily import the files into ProTools. If they need midi data, you could provide them with a standard midi file of your piece.These restrictions leave a lot of people out in the cold.RichardI understand the frustration with these listings. I get disappointed when I start reading, think I may have something, and then see I have to have Pro Tools (and the ability to use it!)...BUT, it's the listing parties that set the requirements, not Taxi. That leaves Taxi 2 choices-- run the listings or not. Which would you prefer? CaseyI would like Taxi to suggest a 3rd choice, outlined in my response in paragraph 2 above. If they say "no," at least we know we tried to offer them a more inclusive option.Richard

[bigbluebarry]

Jul 15, 2009, 8:37am, tower888 wrote:...it was just that I really dislike composing via MIDI in Pro Tools. Recording audio in PT is fine, but MIDI composing directly in Pro Tools is something I'd rather avoid.I know that feeling! Which version of Pro Tools are you using?I upgraded to PT 8 and I gotta tell you, working with MIDI is SOOOOOO much easier than it used to be. I can't compare it with other DAW's since I've only really done it in PT. But version 8 is very nice and easy to work with, IMHO. - Big Blue

[lboogie77]

Jul 16, 2009, 12:37am, orest wrote:I don't understand this at all. PT LE, isn't that a low budget program? LE - LITE? If you are a professional, you shouldn't use these versions in my opinion. I understand your logic Alex, however there are pros who use LE. I remember Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis recording part of a Janet Jackson album back when the 001 first came out. Ok, that was years ago, but there are pros who use the 003 and so forth.These sound like some pretty good listings, but I'm still on the fence. Will try for the less restrictive listings. I see some listings now that prohibit 3rd party samples. I guess that means no RMX either? How far are they going to take this? I guess next they will be asking for a live feed of you composing the track... Gotta laugh and keep working man.77

[bigbluebarry]

Jul 16, 2009, 12:37am, orest wrote:I don't understand this at all. PT LE, isn't that a low budget program? LE - LITE? If you are a professional, you shouldn't use these versions in my opinion. And, if he wants the MIDI data, it means that you are limited to the built in plug-ins? They are usually no where near East West and so on. It says LE, so if you are using the full version of PT, you are out as well? Haven't read this thread too carefully, maybe someone else has already pointed this out? Hey Alexander,Pro Tools LE is most definitely NOT a low budget program, and depending upon which hardware interface you purchase, it's not cheap either. Yes, it doesn't have all of the capabilities that Pro Tools HD has, the primary one being the fact that LE has to rely on the internal CPU processing power of the machine it's installed on, whereas HD relies on other hardware to provide for the processing power. But to suggest that a professional shouldn't use Pro Tools LE, that's a little bit of stretch to me.I'm guessing you didn't mean it quite the way it came across to me. And I know I'm probably being a bit defensive as I'm a Pro Tools LE owner and while I may not have the high profile yet, I do consider myself a professional. About the MIDI data... I would imagine that they would want you to print the midi files to audio tracks, but also provide them with the actual midi data as well. I'm not certain, but I believe in Pro Tools HD, you can save a session as a Pro Tools LE session, but I'm not 100% about that. Regardless, I do know that I can open up an HD session within LE, just did it yesterday with a session I got from a studio out in California via Pro Tools DigiDelivery system.- Big Blue