"Lady Who Sings"

[wignelson]

Nope, it's just me singing about a lady who sings. What do you think the chances are for a forward in TV/Film?http://www.taximusic.com/song.php?song_ ... tream=true

[wignelson]

Anybody there?

[wignelson]

How come no one has an opinion about this song? OK, I'll redo it.Wig

[sgs4u]

Aug 25, 2008, 8:24am, wignelson wrote:How come no one has an opinion about this song? OK, I'll redo it.Wig I get in shit all the time for writing things on here that people seem to feel are way too aggressive, or not nice enough. You don't want to be like me... Maybe:People are busy with their own songs.Too many people want attention at the same time you do, your song got lost in the shuffleYour avatar looks like you might pound someone, or use 'em for fish baitThe energy you're putting out to the universe is about pick me. pick me, pick me. It doesn't seem relaxed about growing. The slogan you have put in your signature, calls people fools. We don't know if you're talking about us. (I do love this line tho - The more you take of the muse the more it remains)They already listened and couldn't think of anything appropriate to say The title of the song, looks too generic, to grab people's attentionThe thread you started, didn't have a accident scene style headlineBiggest reason, I haven't paid any attention yet. What you have defined as the reason you want people to listen, isn't moving people to accommodate your request. That combined with all the other reasons, are my reasons.I could listen now if you like...

[sgs4u]

Aug 14, 2008, 8:11am, wignelson wrote:Nope, it's just me singing about a lady who sings. What do you think the chances are for a forward in TV/Film?http://www.taximusic.com/song.php?song_ ... am=trueHow come no one has an opinion about this song? OK, I'll redo it.WigWell Wig, As soon as the drums start, it sounds like a drum machine pattern you've written a song around. The drums are also strangely delayed @ with a 50 ms doubling thing. That sounds distracting to me. It's on the drum pattern thru most of the piece, so I figure that sounds a bit less than broadcast quality. The chord pattern on the guitar, is cool, the flute is nice. Without singing, that intro sets up a pretty good vibe if you re-did the drums. The flute, bass and guitar all sound natural, but the drums don't. Pan the flute to the other side of the mix, away from the nylon string. The bass might be a little too bass heavy, tone wise. It sounds like a very good tone, it's just a little too processed and pop sounding, for that particular song. For a song pitch, to film & TV, the intro might be too long. Dunno if you need to wait that long before you start singing. It lost my attention too soon, but if the sounds were fixed up, that intro length might be Ok. Once you're singing, you have a cool melody. I like it. But I'm 48. It's got a bit of a James Taylor vibe to me. I haven't seen any listings looking for that style lately, but I bet one will show up. You could listen to some Jack Johnson, to hear what current sounding singer/songwriters sound like. Get rid of the delay sound on your voice, it is distracting. most people(me included) are kinda uncomfortable about putting their voice out to the world to listng to, like we're all measuring penises or something. The truth is, broadcast quality has a lot to do with what people expect to hear. Film & TV music buyers don't seem to mind somewhat pitchy singing, as much as they dislike inappropriate recording techniques. The delay on the voice, has to go. You have to be able to put it nice and close up front and dry. Don't worry about that, your singing is just fine, and is lovely to listen to. It'll be better with less FX. the "Lady who Sings" is a very generic term to title a song with. The Lady in Red, at least brought a colour to mind. Your song is about the Lady who Busks. It's a great idea for a song, give the busker your last penny, and maybe she'll fall in love with ya! But with film and Tv pitches, THE TITLE REALLY MATTERS. NEVER HAVE A BORING TITLE. CARDINAL RULE. Some guy has 300 songs to listen to, he see's your generic title, and has already has a pre-conceived notion of what he's looking for. He needs to see something that catches his attention, because all your competition is screaming - the lady with one eye. Do you get what I mean, jellybean. The melody in your chorus, doesn't have enough of a change in comparison to the verses, for this to be a great song pitch. For a film and TV pitch, I think it might work, but I'd still find a way to make the chorus bigger sounding. and maybe add a harmony to help with that. Really check our Jack Johnson's recordings for ideas. So yes, re-do it. Keep the guitar, pan the flute to the other side of the guitar, change the bass sound to a more natural bass, instead of POP. Lose your drums, go with some shakers, maracas, and maybe some hand drums. Add another instrument into the mix for the choruses, maybe a keyboard pad (not a slamming piano), or strumming guitar. The chord patterns and melody are really soothing to me, I'm quite sure you know how to write really interesting music, and you can really sing. You just have to start mixing/recording/producing in a style that people are willing to use, that's up to you. Some writer's don't like this kind of advice at all, and they don't want their art to be compromised. I understand that. In conclusion, your song and singing are cool, the production techniques and title are not.I hope this helps. Somebody else is gonna listen and contribute now, you watch!

[wignelson]

Aug 25, 2008, 9:31am, sgs4u wrote:Aug 14, 2008, 8:11am, wignelson wrote:Nope, it's just me singing about a lady who sings. What do you think the chances are for a forward in TV/Film?http://www.taximusic.com/song.php?song_ ... am=trueHow come no one has an opinion about this song? OK, I'll redo it.WigWell Wig, As soon as the drums start, it sounds like a drum machine pattern you've written a song around. The drums are also strangely delayed @ with a 50 ms doubling thing. That sounds distracting to me. It's on the drum pattern thru most of the piece, so I figure that sounds a bit less than broadcast quality. The chord pattern on the guitar, is cool, the flute is nice. Without singing, that intro sets up a pretty good vibe if you re-did the drums. The flute, bass and guitar all sound natural, but the drums don't. Pan the flute to the other side of the mix, away from the nylon string. The bass might be a little too bass heavy, tone wise. It sounds like a very good tone, it's just a little too processed and pop sounding, for that particular song. For a song pitch, to film & TV, the intro might be too long. Dunno if you need to wait that long before you start singing. It lost my attention too soon, but if the sounds were fixed up, that intro length might be Ok. Once you're singing, you have a cool melody. I like it. But I'm 48. It's got a bit of a James Taylor vibe to me. I haven't seen any listings looking for that style lately, but I bet one will show up. You could listen to some Jack Johnson, to hear what current sounding singer/songwriters sound like. Get rid of the delay sound on your voice, it is distracting. most people(me included) are kinda uncomfortable about putting their voice out to the world to listng to, like we're all measuring penises or something. The truth is, broadcast quality has a lot to do with what people expect to hear. Film & TV music buyers don't seem to mind somewhat pitchy singing, as much as they dislike inappropriate recording techniques. The delay on the voice, has to go. You have to be able to put it nice and close up front and dry. Don't worry about that, your singing is just fine, and is lovely to listen to. It'll be better with less FX. the "Lady who Sings" is a very generic term to title a song with. The Lady in Red, at least brought a colour to mind. Your song is about the Lady who Busks. It's a great idea for a song, give the busker your last penny, and maybe she'll fall in love with ya! But with film and Tv pitches, THE TITLE REALLY MATTERS. NEVER HAVE A BORING TITLE. CARDINAL RULE. Some guy has 300 songs to listen to, he see's your generic title, and has already has a pre-conceived notion of what he's looking for. He needs to see something that catches his attention, because all your competition is screaming - the lady with one eye. Do you get what I mean, jellybean. The melody in your chorus, doesn't have enough of a change in comparison to the verses, for this to be a great song pitch. For a film and TV pitch, I think it might work, but I'd still find a way to make the chorus bigger sounding. and maybe add a harmony to help with that. Really check our Jack Johnson's recordings for ideas. So yes, re-do it. Keep the guitar, pan the flute to the other side of the guitar, change the bass sound to a more natural bass, instead of POP. Lose your drums, go with some shakers, maracas, and maybe some hand drums. Add another instrument into the mix for the choruses, maybe a keyboard pad (not a slamming piano), or strumming guitar. The chord patterns and melody are really soothing to me, I'm quite sure you know how to write really interesting music, and you can really sing. You just have to start mixing/recording/producing in a style that people are willing to use, that's up to you. Some writer's don't like this kind of advice at all, and they don't want their art to be compromised. I understand that. In conclusion, your song and singing are cool, the production techniques and title are not.I hope this helps. Somebody else is gonna listen and contribute now, you watch!Steve, I really appreciate the time you took to listen to the song. Your advice is all good. I will heed it and hopefully will have a better song for it. I'm grateful to have a knowledgeable peer to pick apart my work and still have respect for what I do correctly. I am determined to move forward, and I have you to thank, at least with respect to this song. I think it's worth the redo and you seemed to say the same with your encouragement. I hope to someday return the favor.I'll call you when I get the chance. Got some hurricanes to deal with at the moment.Thanks again, Wig

[sgs4u]

Sept 3, 2008, 4:14pm, wignelson wrote:I'll call you when I get the chance. Got some hurricanes to deal with at the moment.Thanks again, WigEgads, Yes I'm embarrassed, again. I hope you and everyone you know make it thru completely unscathed.

[wignelson]

People are busy with their own songs.Too many people want attention at the same time you do, your song got lost in the shuffleYour avatar looks like you might pound someone, or use 'em for fish baitThe energy you're putting out to the universe is about pick me. pick me, pick me. It doesn't seem relaxed about growing. [/quote]Pick me, pick me or I'll pound you and use you for fish bait.