High Octane Instumental

[jude3]

Here is the listing:A range of great "HIGH OCTANE" INSTRUMENTALS (no vocals) are needed by a U.K.-based Music Library/Publishing Co. for TV placement. This company ran numerous TAXI listings in 2006 (and signed many TAXI songs) and is now in need of more great material as their service has become very much in demand. Think high-energy tracks for sports highlights or car chase scenes - footage like that. Rock and Electronica-style tracks are preferred, but all instrumentation is OK, just so it's uptempo, energetic, and throat-grabbing. They don't want tracks that sound like they were obviously MIDI generated - authenticity and great performances are the keys. Both instrumentals with lead melody lines and basic backing tracks that serve as "soundbeds" are OK - they want both. All tempos are OK. Track length should be in the 1:00 - 3:00 range. At this point they work mostly with prominent U.K. TV channels such as the BBC and ITV, but also supply music to other production companies that broadcast worldwide. They offer non-exclusive, 50/50 deals. Broadcast quality needed [great sounding home recordings are OK]. Please submit one to three songs online or per CD. All submissions will be screened and critiqued by TAXI and must be received no later than Jan. 28, 2008. TAXI # S080128INHere is the track so far.http://www.taximusic.com/song.php?song_ ... tream=true I have been listening to some of the stuff on the libraries I have been forwarded to and I think i could develop this into something that would be as good.Any suggestions?

[davewalton]

Quote:"Rock and Electronica-style tracks are preferred, but all instrumentation is OK, just so it's uptempo, energetic, and throat-grabbing. They don't want tracks that sound like they were obviously MIDI generated - authenticity and great performances are the keys."Ok,I have a problem with this, after getting some rejects cause I had synth sound on another listing that had the same phrase in it I ask, how can one do Electronica without doing midi??That's the "broadcast quality" thing that always comes up here... kind an elusive thing sometimes. Of course all electronica is midi generated but they want to avoid stuff that is REALLY obvious in its "midi" roots. I never consider that a music or musician issue but rather a small budget issue. This example of the difference is obviously extreme and over the top (to say the least) but they want electronica that sounds closer to this...10-second "authentic" midi examplewww.DaveWaltonMusic.com/PrivateArea/VenganzaDelDiabloAuthentic.mp3And not so much like this... 10-second "not-so-authentic" midi example www.DaveWaltonMusic.com/PrivateArea/Ven ... idi.mp3The only difference between the two is, honestly, not much more than a relatively small investment in a collection of quality virtual instruments/sounds. Both "versions" came from Sonar, straight out of my computer sitting in a little area between our kitchen and family room.

[squids]

Quote:Dave, I got the mp3s no problem.Great examples!! I think maybe the interpretation of "obviously MIDI generated" here might be "obviously cheap soundcard generated sounds". Since it's pretty hard to do electronica without MIDI unless you're Vince Clarke with a studio full of vintage gear, I think this is a great example of what they mean this time.Another reason to listen to Dave!!MazzYep, I could hear the difference too. I'm planning on getting a Mac and Logic next month. Do I need to invest heavily in a soundcard to avoid a Midi-generated sound? Or is it all in the programs, like Ivory, East/West, that kind of thing.......I'm confused.

[davewalton]

Quote:Yep, I could hear the difference too. I'm planning on getting a Mac and Logic next month. Do I need to invest heavily in a soundcard to avoid a Midi-generated sound? Or is it all in the programs, like Ivory, East/West, that kind of thing.......I'm confused. There better be a difference between the two! That was about as much of an "overemphasized" difference as I could think up. The Macintosh guys here will have to address the sound card issue for Macs. In the PC world (Microsoft Windows, not "politically correct" ) you always have to buy a quality "pro" sound card to compete at this level. M-Audio has good products, I use an M-Audio Delta Audiophile 2496. See what Stick or Mazz uses... they're Mac guys with quality stuff and a nearly encyclopedic knowledge of every piece of hardware that's ever been manufactured.

[mazz]

Quote:Quote:Dave, I got the mp3s no problem.Great examples!! I think maybe the interpretation of "obviously MIDI generated" here might be "obviously cheap soundcard generated sounds". Since it's pretty hard to do electronica without MIDI unless you're Vince Clarke with a studio full of vintage gear, I think this is a great example of what they mean this time.Another reason to listen to Dave!!MazzYep, I could hear the difference too. I'm planning on getting a Mac and Logic next month. Do I need to invest heavily in a soundcard to avoid a Midi-generated sound? Or is it all in the programs, like Ivory, East/West, that kind of thing.......I'm confused. Squid,What I was referring to was old school soundcards that came with cheesy sounds on a chip on the soundcard so you didn't need any extra hardware to make "music" . If you have Ivory and East West, etc, your stuff will sound great, don't worry! For the Mac, you'll need a basic audio interface. I'd recommend an M-Audio FW-410 if you need more than one mic input at a time (you can go higher end from there if you have the bucks). My wife has an M-Audio Firewire Solo which has one mic and one line in and it works well on her iMac.To keep it on thread, I agree with you that if jude takes the tempo up it will make it more on target.Mazz

[steini]

well guys, I tried to make something for this listing, not really my style, Im kinda clyderman silly long haired stuff kinda guy og piano, but if someone has the time to listen and give me pointers on the broadcast level stuff I would be very happy. I think this is my sitehttp://www.taximusic.com/hosting/home.php?artist=steinand the song is called speedy (original )thanks and I'm happy to be among all of you, this is my hobby but at the same time something I really really love doing.Steini

[jude3]

Quote:Quote:Dave, I got the mp3s no problem.Great examples!! I think maybe the interpretation of "obviously MIDI generated" here might be "obviously cheap soundcard generated sounds". Since it's pretty hard to do electronica without MIDI unless you're Vince Clarke with a studio full of vintage gear, I think this is a great example of what they mean this time.Another reason to listen to Dave!!MazzYep, I could hear the difference too. I'm planning on getting a Mac and Logic next month. Do I need to invest heavily in a soundcard to avoid a Midi-generated sound? Or is it all in the programs, like Ivory, East/West, that kind of thing.......I'm confused. I worked on pro tools before it became pro tools. I was recording to hard disk before you guys even knew it was possible. like in 1988!If i were you i would get cubase 4 unless you are the geek type. it is easier to use than logic.the sound card makes a huge difference depending on how good your ear is.i recommend RME firewire 800 or any of the RME. it is as good sounding as all the best and cheaper. I used apogee for years and RME sounds better to me.

[ciskokidd]

Quote:[quote author=mazz board=listings thread=1199762250 post=1199842937]Yep, I could hear the difference too. I'm planning on getting a Mac and Logic next month. Do I need to invest heavily in a soundcard to avoid a Midi-generated sound? Or is it all in the programs, like Ivory, East/West, that kind of thing.......I'm confused. Hey Squids,Mazz has it right. You don't need a card that generates sounds per se, but you will need an audio interface (either USB or Firewire) to get audio in and out and also to run those great plugins without latency.Best.Cisco

[mazz]

Quote:Quote:Yep, I could hear the difference too. I'm planning on getting a Mac and Logic next month. Do I need to invest heavily in a soundcard to avoid a Midi-generated sound? Or is it all in the programs, like Ivory, East/West, that kind of thing.......I'm confused. I worked on pro tools before it became pro tools. I was recording to hard disk before you guys even knew it was possible. like in 1988!If i were you i would get cubase 4 unless you are the geek type. it is easier to use than logic.the sound card makes a huge difference depending on how good your ear is.i recommend RME firewire 800 or any of the RME. it is as good sounding as all the best and cheaper. I used apogee for years and RME sounds better to me.It was called Sound Tools! A friend of mine had a system and it was pretty awesome to be able to edit audio on a computer (a Mac II if I remember correctly, probably a 30MHZ processor with 128MB RAM). I was still doing MIDI on a Commodore 64 at the time (mid 80s), then I graduated to a Korg M1 internal sequencer and so on. We've come a long way, jude!Mazz

[matto]

I'm sure they mean "can't sound cheesy, stiff, cheap" etc. It's in all the listings this company is placing, so that tells you something...