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Post by hummingbird » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:38 am

Question: you've all seen several Dispatch emails for broadcast quality recordings of hymns which *must* be produced with Pro Tools LE. Just wondered if any of you have placed music with those kinds of parameters in the past - does it come up often? (and why how you produce the master matters to them). Just curious.H
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Post by matto » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:39 am

Quote:Question: you've all seen several Dispatch emails for broadcast quality recordings of hymns which *must* be produced with Pro Tools LE. Just wondered if any of you have placed music with those kinds of parameters in the past - does it come up often? (and why how you produce the master matters to them). Just curious.HPersonally, no. It's very rare. Most libraries don't want to be bothered with remixing your stuff, and the few that do are usually fine with few stems in wav or aiff format. matto

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Post by aubreyz » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:35 pm

Quote:Question: you've all seen several Dispatch emails for broadcast quality recordings of hymns which *must* be produced with Pro Tools LE. Just wondered if any of you have placed music with those kinds of parameters in the past - does it come up often? (and why how you produce the master matters to them). Just curious.HThese listings struck me as rather odd. Pro Tools LE is a strange request, because even if the session is done in LE there is still no assurance that all the plugs will be the same. They must require the source files to mix/remix -- which lends me to think they will produce differing versions from your source tracks.The other thing that was a flag is this phrase:It’s a buy-out/work-for-hire deal where they pay about XXXX up-front per song, then they retain the publishing rights and you keep your writer’s share (for performance royalties).Correct me if I'm wrong, but for a public domain piece there is no writer's share, right? I guess it boils down to whether it's worth the shot for the one time payment they are offering.Aub

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Post by matto » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:00 pm

Quote:[quote author=hummingbird board=DispatchFeedback thread=1190410735 post=1190410735]Correct me if I'm wrong, but for a public domain piece there is no writer's share, right? I guess it boils down to whether it's worth the shot for the one time payment they are offering.AubWell...since you're asking for it you are wrong my friend. You can register a PD piece with your PRO as "PD arr by xyz" and collect performance royalties for that "arrangement" as you would on a piece of own . The rate might be slightly reduced, I'd have to check on that, but I know this for a fact cause I've done it and am getting paid no problem. As far as the PT LE...you are completely right about the plug-ins. My feeling is they just want stems and don't want to import them themselves, hence they want everything as a PT session.Their prerogative...matto

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Post by stick » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:07 pm

I actually called TAXI about this, and whoever I talked to didn't really know anything about it. I'm going to go with matto and figure they're just going to want stems or whatever delievered lined up and ready to play in a ProTools session. Probably without any plugs. I'm undecided as to whether these listings are worth it... $1K a song isn't bad for arrangements, and this kind of thing is right up my ally... in fact I do exactly this on a weeky basis at church. My problem is the performance aspect of it... my mediochre voice aside, it's not easy to pull this "style" off without some acoustic guitar. I was telling my wife about it and said "sheesh, I could make a whole record from this set of listings." I guess if they don't like 'em... at worst I can take them to the band and church and use them there!

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Post by ljweber70 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:43 am

I phoned BMI and ASCAP about a month ago regarding arrangements of public domain songs. If I remember correctly, I think the PRO rate for this arrangement is about 20 to 30% of the standard rate for original copyrighted music. Someone correct me please if I'm off base.Larry

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Post by liamkelly » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:01 am

I seem to remember - about a year ago - a listing that asked for stems to be made available. I think it was for a Music College/University Course/Engineering School and I remembered thinking at the time that it must have been to train students. Anyone else remember it? I must confess I'm not 100% sure it was Taxi but I'm 80% sure. I also don't think that this listing (as it's written) is asking for the same. But may be relevant. But, knowing me, may not.Just trying to help.

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Post by matto » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:11 pm

Quote:I phoned BMI and ASCAP about a month ago regarding arrangements of public domain songs. If I remember correctly, I think the PRO rate for this arrangement is about 20 to 30% of the standard rate for original copyrighted music. Someone correct me please if I'm off base.LarryLarry, if that's what they told you at BMI, they were wrong, cause according to my statement the rate is right around 80%, so a relatively insignificant reduction. ASCAP may be different but I'd be surprised if they were that different.matto

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Post by ljweber70 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:59 am

Quote:[quote author=ljweber70 board=DispatchFeedback thread=1190410735 post=1190475834]Larry, if that's what they told you at BMI, they were wrong, cause according to my statement the rate is right around 80%, so a relatively insignificant reduction. ASCAP may be different but I'd be surprised if they were that different.mattoMatt,Perhaps they told me it was a 20 to 30 percent discount, the reciprocal of which would then be roughly 80%. I was only going by memory. Thanks for the clarification.Larry

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