East west orchestra 16 or 24 bit and other questions
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East west orchestra 16 or 24 bit and other questions
I have EW gold 16bit. I wonder about your experience who has upgraded to 24bit?
Is it worth the money?
Or maybe better spend money to buy the close mic?
I don't no if it matters but, some tracks in my projects are 16bit others are24bit. I use to export in 24 bit. Is that good for the 16bit tracks?
It's not until recently I thought about it. It should be best to have everything in same bit I guess.
How do you do?
Another thing is from vst - synth's like Sylenth1. Do they produce the bit rate I decide?
I couldn't find info on Lennards (Sylenth1) homesite.
Hope someone can help to bring some light.
Is it worth the money?
Or maybe better spend money to buy the close mic?
I don't no if it matters but, some tracks in my projects are 16bit others are24bit. I use to export in 24 bit. Is that good for the 16bit tracks?
It's not until recently I thought about it. It should be best to have everything in same bit I guess.
How do you do?
Another thing is from vst - synth's like Sylenth1. Do they produce the bit rate I decide?
I couldn't find info on Lennards (Sylenth1) homesite.
Hope someone can help to bring some light.
Last edited by lindpop on Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:54 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: East west orchestra 16 or 24 bit and resolution questions
I got answer regarding Sylenth1. The synth export it in the resolution one export it in up to 32bit.
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Re: East west orchestra 16 or 24 bit and other questions
Using 24-bit samples is better than the 16-bit samples in that it gives you more dynamic range and, to me, sounds "deeper" and more rich.
It doesn't matter that some samples you use are 16-bit and you export in 24-bit, but I wouldn't go back and forth on the same file. You should probably only render it from 16-bit to 24-bit once.
I used to use EZ Drummer with 16-bit samples and didn't know what I was missing until I upgraded to Superior 2.0 with 24-bit samples. The drums are easier to mix, sit better in the mix, and sound much better - at least to my ears. Some people claim that you can't hear the difference between 44.1kHz 16-bit and 48kHz 24-bit, but I can definitely hear a difference.
So they probably would be worth buying. I don't have them, so I can't give you too many specifics on that! Just the sound quality of the 2 samplerates. HTH
It doesn't matter that some samples you use are 16-bit and you export in 24-bit, but I wouldn't go back and forth on the same file. You should probably only render it from 16-bit to 24-bit once.
I used to use EZ Drummer with 16-bit samples and didn't know what I was missing until I upgraded to Superior 2.0 with 24-bit samples. The drums are easier to mix, sit better in the mix, and sound much better - at least to my ears. Some people claim that you can't hear the difference between 44.1kHz 16-bit and 48kHz 24-bit, but I can definitely hear a difference.
So they probably would be worth buying. I don't have them, so I can't give you too many specifics on that! Just the sound quality of the 2 samplerates. HTH
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Re: East west orchestra 16 or 24 bit and other questions
You know, even though I'm an old analog guy, I ALWAYS mix to 24/96. It just sounds deeper and richer, as fullbird said. Higher resolution is always better, to my ears.
That said, you may start shaking your head at my chain when mixing/mastering! I might be nuts, but I mix up all my 24 bit and 16 bit samples together, then run analog outs from my interfaces into a 30-year-old Soundcraft board.
From there, in the analog realm, I go into an Empirical Labs "Fatso," which gives the digital sheen more analog warmth! --- Then, it's analog "in" to an Alesis Masterlink recording digitally at 24/96, and from there a digital transfer into ProTools. Any additional mastering/tweaking is done in PT, and then it goes digitally back into the Masterlink. Whew!!!
I may even do a little more tweaking in the Masterlink. Then I let it convert it back down to CD resolution if I want to burn discs.
I tell ya, this is all trial and error. I've listened VERY carefully to the difference, and going to 24/96 and back to 16/44.1, at least with my gear, definitely sounds better than staying with the CD horseshit resolution. Can't wait until they come out with commercial hi-resolution DVDs or whatever! Some say they're available, but I've yet to hear one.
Happy Trails,
Ern

That said, you may start shaking your head at my chain when mixing/mastering! I might be nuts, but I mix up all my 24 bit and 16 bit samples together, then run analog outs from my interfaces into a 30-year-old Soundcraft board.
From there, in the analog realm, I go into an Empirical Labs "Fatso," which gives the digital sheen more analog warmth! --- Then, it's analog "in" to an Alesis Masterlink recording digitally at 24/96, and from there a digital transfer into ProTools. Any additional mastering/tweaking is done in PT, and then it goes digitally back into the Masterlink. Whew!!!
I may even do a little more tweaking in the Masterlink. Then I let it convert it back down to CD resolution if I want to burn discs.
I tell ya, this is all trial and error. I've listened VERY carefully to the difference, and going to 24/96 and back to 16/44.1, at least with my gear, definitely sounds better than staying with the CD horseshit resolution. Can't wait until they come out with commercial hi-resolution DVDs or whatever! Some say they're available, but I've yet to hear one.
Happy Trails,
Ern


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Re: East west orchestra 16 or 24 bit and other questions
Thanks for your answers. I have changed my resolution from 24/41khz to 24/96khz. Hope that will make some difference to the better.
I guess it would be even better with the 24bit EW samples (but it's a lot of money, at least for me).
I guess it would be even better with the 24bit EW samples (but it's a lot of money, at least for me).
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Re: East west orchestra 16 or 24 bit and other questions
I'm okay with 16 bit samples for most stuff, but pianos and cymbals really seem to benefit from the extra bits. (I'm pretty sure this has to do with transients) I hear a measurable benefit from capturing audio at 24 bits, but little to no difference between 44.1 and 48 kHz; I work at either sample rate depending on the destination.
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