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Re: //// Do you know how to read and write music?

Post by Tree » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:33 pm

This reminds me of a joke....
Q: How do you get a guitarist to stop playing?

A: Put sheet music in front of him! :lol:

Great thread. Good to see all the viewpoints. I'm classically trained so know how to read music easily but when I compose I do it all in the box and don't write it out (though every once in a while will refer to the staff view). My husband had no good music classes growing up so can't read music but through the years he's learning slowly but surely. Another co-writer knows how to read music but also made up his own notation system in grade school before he learned proper notation. So he'd prefer to use his way of writing things, but he has an amazing ear. We each bring something different to the table. It's great when one of us needs help with something we get each other's perspective since we're all coming from different backgrounds.

We've also recorded tons of bands with varying degrees of reading. Some people come in and don't even know what chords they're playing, just what frets their fingers belong on. But those are sometimes the best songwriters, especially for simple stuff. But can become troublesome when it's Band: "Go back to that part where I do that riff that changes and the drummer is going blicketa blicketa" Me: "You mean the verse?" Oh the stories I could tell....

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Post by djbobm » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:00 pm

Thanks, Mazz!

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Post by mojobone » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:12 pm

In answer to the OP's actual question, yes I do read and write standard notation and Tab, but as they say in Nashville, not enough to hurt my playin'. ;)
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Post by jparker » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:19 pm

I started at the age of 8 learning instruments and reading and writing music. The ear just kinda came in around that time, and I find instances where both skills come into play. I quit music completely for about 10 years from the mid 90s through just a couple of years ago, and reading and writing is one area that never left, (even though my playing suffered immensely). If I hadn't spent the time as a child and carried it on through college, I never could have picked it up again this late in life in my mid-forties.

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Re: //// Do you know how to read and write music?

Post by remmet » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:53 pm

Great thread! I don't have a whole lot to add to what's been said, but I'll share a few thoughts.

Reading music can offer some real advantages, sometimes in unexpected ways.

The best job I ever had - and one that appeared completely unexpectedly - was as a music copyist and transcriber for Frank Zappa. I did the music calligraphy for many of his orchestral scores (and parts), translating his pencil sketches into publishable manuscripts. I also transcribed into notation some of his guitar solos off of cassette tapes or records. He had enough material to keep me on staff for 5 years. It never would have happened if I hadn't been able to read music.

I hire musicians and singers from time to time. If I have a choice, I will always pick someone who reads. (And it's amazing how few singers do.) Recording someone who reads takes a fraction of the time and saves money and frustration.

Like a lot of us, I write most of my orchestra production music "in the box" rather than on the score. But there are many occasions where something isn't quite working (harmony, melody, counterpoint, etc.). Being able to look at the section in notated form allows me to see what the problem is, e.g., a particular minor 7th chord is missing the minor 3rd; the counterpoint is clumsy; or the voice leading is not flowing naturally, etc. The visualization helps the ears figure out what's going on.

Those are just a few examples of why it can be helpful to read music.

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Post by Len911 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:52 am

Richard now that is GREAT!!!!! Frank Zappa, the KING!!!!! The very reason my thinking is so screwed up today,lol!!!
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Post by suzdoyle » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:27 am

Great discussion here. :-)

I read and write music, but focus mostly on practical theory. I think music is a language that can be "spoken" three ways: By ear, by sight Reading, and by Chord theory, which combines the previous 2 ways and focuses on thinking in "chords" to create melodies, harmonies and song styles.

The more ways you speak the language of music, the more options you have for communicating with other musicians. :-)

I highly recommend the software "Music Ace" as a good basic intro to understanding notes and scales -- it incorporates the visual, auditory and kinesthetic elements of music together. Also, I have free factsheets you can download that offer a basic intro to understanding chord theory, playing melodies by thinking in chords, stylizing songs, and creating cool base lines. Great for beginners who want to explore.

http://suzdoyle.com/teaches-music/

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Re: //// Do you know how to read and write music?

Post by elser » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:32 am

No matter who you are, you can become fluent in reading and theory. It's somewhat intimidating but if you can read this post, you can learn to read music. And professionally it's a huge advantage.

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