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D111207RS - Relationship songs...

Post by singer1 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:44 am

It does say, ( in all rock styles)."VI'm open to Soft Rock, Modern Rock, Rock, Alt. Rock, Pop Rock, Indie Rock, even tracks leaning towards Adult Contemporary as well.
I sent 6 songs, YES 6, to see if they REALLY are looking for these songs; or just certain peoples' songs. WOW!! All were returned, because every song was 'returned' for the same reason. They checked the music and lyric boxes. So everything I sent, according to the ' all knowledgeable ones ' was wrong for a listing that says it's wide open to relationship songs, OF ALL SHAPES AND SIZES.
Here's hoping that I would EVER get a response from anyone at Taxi, but that has not EVER happened.
These songs are NOT relationship songs, according to screener # 132:
1. Don't Go Away
2. The Love That I Know
3. Day One
4. I'm alive
5. Secret Seniorita
6. What I See
Every other screener says that these are alt/rock, and pop/rock songs. But not now!
Yes, I know that the titles themselves actually sound as though they would be some kind of relationship song, but I guess I'm back in the twilight zone.
They asked for 'all rock styles', but they're an indie label. I guess I'm stuck between the rock and the indie thing again. Does anyone listen to music anymore?
Hey Casey, are you now going to say that I'm sooo wrong again???
Oh, to screener # 132. Really! You get what you asked for, and found a way to say that, although you're looking for all styles, you really mean, none of the styles mentioned.
Those that can, do; those that can't teach, or in this case, review others songs. You can eat, but do you cook as well?
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Re: D111207RS - Relationship songs...

Post by Casey H » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:41 am

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The listing party did the screening themselves. So if a song didn't float their boat for what they were looking for, they didn't take it. How can you grumble at Taxi when it was the end user themselves that made the decision?

BTW, I had both forwards and returns among the bunch I submitted. The "Music" and "Lyrics" boxes were checked on the returns. I think the end user here tended to check those if the song didn't do it for him/her, regardless. Remember, this was NOT a Taxi employee doing the screening.

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RELATIONSHIP SONGS (in all rock styles) needed by a Los Angeles based Indie Label for upcoming Film and TV placements, and possible advertising potential. Mentioned by the source: “I need contemporary scene setting music with relationships as the primary theme. Lyrical themes can include Love, Romance, Jealousy, Quarreling, Values, etc.. Think of popular shows, such as “Sex in the City, Friends, or any general relationship based Comedy. I'm open to Soft Rock, Modern Rock, Alt Rock, Pop Rock, Indie Rock, even tracks leaning towards Adult Contemporary as well.” MALE or FEMALE vocals OK. Lyrical themes MUST communicate a story to the listener and provide a focused, clear, and universal lyrical approach. NO Instrumentals please! TEMPO and MOOD may vary. Vocal and Instrumental presentation must be top-notch! Broadcast Quality needed (great sounding home recordings are OK.) Please submit one to three songs online or per CD, include lyrics. All submissions will be screened by a representative of the company on a YES/NO BASIS - NO CRITIQUES FROM TAXI - and must be received no later than 10:00AM (PST) on Wednesday, December 7, 2011. TAXI # D111207RS

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Re: D111207RS - Relationship songs...

Post by singer1 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:47 am

Then DON'T ASK FOR 'RELATIONSHIP SONGS IN ALL ROCK STYLES'. Ask for songs that you like. I actually sent in 4 different kinds of the rock genre, so it's not as though my 'style ' is removed in any way from the genre asked for. YES; I DO KNOW THAT THE ' provider' reviewed the songs. Good luck to them and their 'library'.
I never remember seeing the word ACOUSTIC MUSIC in the description. I used to think that I did not read the description very well. Now I think the reviewers don't. D.B.

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P.S.- to Taxi; I have 4 placements with some of these very songs your screeners don't like. I'm sure you've never heard of : Kenny Lamb, Don Felder, Nightranger, or Ronnie Montrose.

P.P.S. - I'm starting a music library, and I'm looking for songs that I like. Please submit 1 to 3 songs online for me to check out. I will then return them with various reasons, none of which I will share with you, so you may then wonder why your song was not forwarded. You may then resort to conjecture. Look it up. D.B.

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Post by Casey H » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:14 pm

If you've had such success outside of Taxi, then surely you're aware that in the "real" world, when you submit to a label or publisher, 99% of the time it's YES/NO ('no' is usually no response at all) with no explanation. That is the industry norm. This listing was no different than submitting directly to that indie label.

Also, since you are so successful on your own, maybe it's time you stopped renewing your Taxi membership and wailing about your returns.

These rants get tiresome. You post them, people respond to try to calm you down, you simmer down for a while until the next return(s).

Last response from me.

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Post by eeoo » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:16 pm

Yeah, I don't see how you can grumble about a return when it was the the listing party that did the screening, if they can't use it they can't use it, simple as that. Also, I wonder if you listened to any songs from Sex In The City or Friends and tailored your submissions to fit those vibes? I've been known to get frustrated with Taxi screened returns from time to time but when the listing party returns something there's nothing to get frustrated about. Also, I can't imagine hearing a Montrose or Nightranger tune in either of those shows, they might be great songs but not for those shows.

By the way, I was 0 for 6 last week, I know the feeling, we all know the feeling.

Just my thoughts, good luck...

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Post by davewalton » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:23 pm

These songs are NOT relationship songs, according to screener # 132:
Apparently "screener #132" was the listing party themselves. You got a direct audition to the final decision maker. Taxi simply walked you into the decision makers office unobstructed and they listened. Isn't that what you ultimately want? What more could you ask for? Other than auditioning your music to God himself, there isn't a higher authority than the listing party. If the listing party passed on your music in a wide-open listing, maybe it's time to listen to what DID get forwarded and see what you can learn. 8-)
Oh, to screener # 132. Really! You get what you asked for, and found a way to say that, although you're looking for all styles, you really mean, none of the styles mentioned.
Those that can, do; those that can't teach, or in this case, review others songs. You can eat, but do you cook as well?
Since screener 132 is the listing party themselves... well, I don't think I've ever seen anyone shoot themselves in the foot in such a public way. Seriously, that demonstrates such a lack of professionalism and awareness that it's almost incomprehensible.

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Re: D111207RS - Relationship songs...

Post by Kelil » Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:15 pm

Hey D.B thanks for the thread and rant. If anything your post will help agencies form better descriptions in the listings they write in the future. This way it saves them time having to wade through piles of songs they dont want and would make their screening less difficult and more effective.

The box that was ticked ''music'' probably has nothing to do with style though, it probably has to do with sound quality they were after or even musicianship wasnt to THEIR taste? Just my two cents.

But...never mind my self styled post. Just contact headscreener and ask that person to help you out.

Happy new year to you and...many happy ''returns'' hehe.

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Post by mazz » Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:15 pm

singer1 wrote: Here's hoping that I would EVER get a response from anyone at Taxi, but that has not EVER happened.
Are you saying that you never got a response to a forum post or that you never got a response when you contacted Taxi directly?
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Post by Casey H » Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:20 pm

Kelil wrote:If anything your post will help agencies form better descriptions in the listings they write in the future.
That statement is so ludicrous, I have no idea how to even begin to respond to it.

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Post by Kelil » Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:26 pm

Casey H wrote:
Kelil wrote:If anything your post will help agencies form better descriptions in the listings they write in the future.
That statement is so ludicrous, I have no idea how to even begin to respond to it.
Dont know what your talking about. If I was an ad agencie I'd be wanting as much feedback as I can get, mostly critical feedback so it can help me fine-tune my business and make it better.

same with music, all good criticism is vital for making craft of writing better.

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