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Post by arthur » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:05 pm

Jun 26, 2009, 5:23pm, greatmoves wrote:So Farrah Fawcett dies and on arrival in Heaven, God says to her " Farrah, you did many good things in your life", you gave to charity, you helped with good causes and you entertained people. So I will give you one wish". Farrah says " please protect all the worlds children". And God said "OK Farrah", and immediately killed Michael Jackson. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Ha, Ha... To ArthurYou may think it funny to say stuff about Michael Jackson, but when one tell jokes like this, it really shows an insight into who they really are. To come into this public forum and write what you did shows poor taste, and the true you.YOU ARE ONE SICK PERSON...BBThank you!

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Post by arthur » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:13 pm

Jun 28, 2009, 11:04am, mojobone wrote:@arthur I can't think of a single person who was his friend before the allegations that wasn't still his friend after. You're right, he had so many friends that always tried to help him and never say no to him BAWHAHAHAHA get real, everyone around him is guilty this time. They were all piranhas. They were all after his fame and money. No one tried interventions or laid down the law with him. Don't agree? Just look at his family.....But yeah, he DID have so real close friends like Liz Taylor, Webster, and Bubbles the Chimp.

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Post by arthur » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:25 pm

Jul 2, 2009, 3:39pm, TAXI wrote:Hi Arthur,Please chill. Differences of opinion are absolutely fine, but malice is far from necessary and not acceptable. I'm not patrolling the forum this weekend, but the mods who are have license to do whatever they need to. I've seen you make some nice contributions in the past, and hope you will continue to do more of that.This must all be my fault. A few hours ago I looked at the forum and thought, "It's nice to see things being so peaceful.... ahhhh." Jinx!!Thanks,MichaelCriticisms and differences of opinions are what made this country great. In fact I don't see enough criticisms of most everyones songs around here. Everybody seems to slap each other on the back for mediocre songs. Criticism is absolutely necessary in becoming a good songwriter. Gawd, if so many in here are this thinned skinned, they'll never make it.Yeah, this is your forum so I can understand if I did a no-no. Last thing I wanted to do was upset the Moonies. I really had no idea they were so affected by Wacko Jacko's death. You can ban me if you want, it's your call.As for me, I'll be glued to the TV screen this coming Tuesday when they glorify MJ's funeral......I'll be watching The Price is Right!Really, showing a $25,000 casket, and all the glitz and glamour, is sickening to me, especially when 1/2 block away there's homeless starving and dying in the streets. MJ absolutely stood for excess, glamour and gaudiness and I get sick when watching so much of it. Doesn't any of this make your stomach turn?We have national cap and trade problems, Obama has racked up trillions more in debt, the Stimulus Package is a joke, Iran is killing it's own people, N Korea is on the move....California is down the toilet, and all the media dwells on is the "Gloved One?" Sad, really.

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Post by claire » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:26 pm

Guilty of the sin of omission and guilty of the sin of commission. Agreed. Nobody stepped in, nobody said "enough". Just like Elvis and Anna Nicole Smith and Marilyn Monroe and countless other famous people who could have what they wanted whether it was good for them or not. The question is, how do you stop anyone from hurting himself/herself if they are bound and determined to do it? He wasn't incompetent, they couldn't just drop a net over him. If one doctor said no, another one would say yes. Everyone wants a piece of the star and Michael Jackson isn't the only star to self destruct. It doesn't make him evil and it doesn't make everyone around him evil. Just sadly human.Claire

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Post by suzdoyle » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:53 pm

Quote:Criticisms and differences of opinions are what made this country great. In fact I don't see enough criticisms of most everyones songs around here. Everybody seems to slap each other on the back for mediocre songs. Criticism is absolutely necessary in becoming a good songwriter. Gawd, if so many in here are this thinned skinned, they'll never make it.Yeah, this is your forum so I can understand if I did a no-no. Last thing I wanted to do was upset the Moonies.There is a difference between healthy disagreements in which the inherent worth and dignity of each person is respected, and hostile name calling and provocation, which is obviously done to provoke people into recreational conflict.Not a game most of us here are interested in playing, no matter how much name calling you do, Arthur. I imagine you could find some more appropriate venues for this kind of activity.

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Post by Casey H » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:18 pm

Jul 3, 2009, 5:25pm, arthur wrote: In fact I don't see enough criticisms of most everyones songs around here. Everybody seems to slap each other on the back for mediocre songs. Criticism is absolutely necessary in becoming a good songwriter. Gawd, if so many in here are this thinned skinned, they'll never make it.This comment about how many of us review songs bothers me much more than your other posts. Some of us here (I consider myself one) give honest, critical reviews that are not simply pats on the back. I've given dozens of reviews whereby I told people their track was not broadcast quality, did not have a strong enough hook, had weak lyrics, had pitchy vocals, and so on. I am one of many who contribute that way and expect the same from our peers.Just because we don't give the feedback in a mean spirited way doesn't mean it's not honest and critical.But why don't you put your money where your mouth is and post a link to a song with lyrics? I'll do a thorough review for you.Casey

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Post by arthur » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:50 pm

Jul 3, 2009, 5:26pm, claire wrote:Guilty of the sin of omission and guilty of the sin of commission. Agreed. Nobody stepped in, nobody said "enough". Just like Elvis and Anna Nicole Smith and Marilyn Monroe and countless other famous people who could have what they wanted whether it was good for them or not. The question is, how do you stop anyone from hurting himself/herself if they are bound and determined to do it? He wasn't incompetent, they couldn't just drop a net over him. If one doctor said no, another one would say yes. Everyone wants a piece of the star and Michael Jackson isn't the only star to self destruct. It doesn't make him evil and it doesn't make everyone around him evil. Just sadly human.ClaireMichael Jackson was likely in panic mode when faced with the prospect of trying to do 50 concerts. The problem was that he weighed 112 lbs. at 5'11'', ate once a day and slept about 3 hrs. a night. And he was no longer 25 yrs. old, he was 50. There's a good chance that the concerts would have killed him anyway and he wouldn't have gotten anywhere near to doing 50. There's a darn good chance that enablers played a part in Jackson's death, whether that part was big or small. People on the payroll don't say NO to a Michael Jackson or NO to an Elvis Presley. Say NO and you're out the door. Jackson's personal physician apparently gave up his practice and had been attending to Jackson for only a couple of weeks prior to Jackson's death.

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Post by arthur » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:51 pm

Jul 3, 2009, 6:53pm, suzdoyle wrote:Quote:Criticisms and differences of opinions are what made this country great. In fact I don't see enough criticisms of most everyones songs around here. Everybody seems to slap each other on the back for mediocre songs. Criticism is absolutely necessary in becoming a good songwriter. Gawd, if so many in here are this thinned skinned, they'll never make it.Yeah, this is your forum so I can understand if I did a no-no. Last thing I wanted to do was upset the Moonies.There is a difference between healthy disagreements in which the inherent worth and dignity of each person is respected, and hostile name calling and provocation, which is obviously done to provoke people into recreational conflict.Not a game most of us here are interested in playing, no matter how much name calling you do, Arthur. I imagine you could find some more appropriate venues for this kind of activity. yes'm

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:18pm, hurowitz wrote:Jul 3, 2009, 5:25pm, arthur wrote: In fact I don't see enough criticisms of most everyones songs around here. Everybody seems to slap each other on the back for mediocre songs. Criticism is absolutely necessary in becoming a good songwriter. Gawd, if so many in here are this thinned skinned, they'll never make it.This comment about how many of us review songs bothers me much more than your other posts. Some of us here (I consider myself one) give honest, critical reviews that are not simply pats on the back. I've given dozens of reviews whereby I told people their track was not broadcast quality, did not have a strong enough hook, had weak lyrics, had pitchy vocals, and so on. I am one of many who contribute that way and expect the same from our peers.Just because we don't give the feedback in a mean spirited way doesn't mean it's not honest and critical.But why don't you put your money where your mouth is and post a link to a song with lyrics? I'll do a thorough review for you.Caseyif your song gets cut/placed, it's a good songif your song doesn't get cut/placed, it's a bad songright?

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Post by slideboardouts » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:10 pm

Jul 3, 2009, 9:53pm, arthur wrote:Jul 3, 2009, 8:18pm, hurowitz wrote:This comment about how many of us review songs bothers me much more than your other posts. Some of us here (I consider myself one) give honest, critical reviews that are not simply pats on the back. I've given dozens of reviews whereby I told people their track was not broadcast quality, did not have a strong enough hook, had weak lyrics, had pitchy vocals, and so on. I am one of many who contribute that way and expect the same from our peers.Just because we don't give the feedback in a mean spirited way doesn't mean it's not honest and critical.But why don't you put your money where your mouth is and post a link to a song with lyrics? I'll do a thorough review for you.Caseyif your song gets cut/placed, it's a good songif your song doesn't get cut/placed, it's a bad songright?Not necessarily. There are certainly other factors at work besides the quality of the song.

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