Placement question

[fusilierb]

Semi silly question that I think I know the answer to but, "If your piece is played multiple times in the same show (episode), is that one placement or one placement for each time it is played?"

I have several cue sheets where I'm on the same one multiple times and am not sure how I should log that.

[davewalton]

I don't know that there's an official answer but when I have one song that's used in two or more separate sections, I count that as two (or more) because they could have used another track or tracks for any one or all of those sections.

[DesireInspires]

Semi silly question that I think I know the answer to but, "If your piece is played multiple times in the same show (episode), is that one placement or one placement for each time it is played?"

I have several cue sheets where I'm on the same one multiple times and am not sure how I should log that.

Each play is counted separately. I noticed that each play is not the same. Even though the same song was used, one play could be for 0:18 min and another could be for 0:12 min. That would count as two separate usages.

I know one that series has used the same cue in 9 different episodes. Another show has used 3 different cues in one episode of that series. As far as writing my placement log, I do not count multiple placements of one song or different songs in one episode anymore. I just go by how many separate series I have music in. But as far as royalties go, each placement is separate.

BTW, your question was not silly.

[davewalton]

BTW, your question was not silly.

Well Bryan, at least not as silly as this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8

[matto]

I would log each start as a separate placement, although PROs may sometimes consolidate multiple plays of the same cue in the same episode into one longer play...
Of course if you had a single cue play 100 times in the same show over the course of a season, and then claimed to have had '100 tv placements'...that might be considered a tad 'Hollywood'...

[fusilierb]

Ha Dave! One of my favorite Python skits.

Thanks everyone. I thought that multiple plays in the same show were individual placements, but really wasn't 100%. And matto's example was the idea that was sort of nagging at the back of my head. Although 100 plays in one show should get it's own category of bragging rights. But my "stats" are looking better now.

[matto]

Exactly, you could always make it it's own category. In the end it's really only important early on, soon enough you'll lose count.
If anything, it would be more important/useful to track how much income each song is generating over time, cause that's ultimately what matters, plus it's much more valuable data.
On my year-to-year credit list (on the rare occasion that I update it), I only list the show once but I usually add 'multiple/weekly/daily/100s/[exact number if known] placements', whichever applies...