Really..?

[michael11]

Note to Vikki.


Vikki.

The people round here that know you,regard you with huge admiration,affection and respect both in your professional and personal life.

Please don’t be deterred from offering help in the future because the other 99’9% of us DO appreciate it.

Michael.

[Kevm]

Note to Vikki.


Vikki.

The people round here that know you,regard you with huge admiration,affection and respect both in your professional and personal life.

Please don’t be deterred from offering help in the future because the other 99’9% of us DO appreciate it.

Michael.

Oh lord.. Hence why I said I shouldn't have posted (yet someone still points that out after I said that ??), forget it.

I don't "have my Taxi goggles on". I questioned myself spending more than 1/2 hour listening to a la's and your song over and over to see if I could help you, as I suspected you might not be willing to listen if I decided the screener had a point. Which I did, after mentioning how obviously talented you are and how good the song is. I notice you don't deny the a la's have a "gloss". You don't want to change your production, that's your choice, but don't shoot the messengers when they point out the difference between what is wanted and what was submitted

'nuff said anyways, let's go have some cheer and forget how frustrating this industry can be for a couple minutes

hugs
Hummin'bird

I'm sorry, like I said, I shouldn't have posted it was only going to cause the sort of reaction I've received. From my perspective, it has nothing to do with acknowledging a gloss or whatever the screener is saying I think I didn't convey my point well enough, it's that even using a term such as gloss is utter nonsense (I will try and elaborate, it's too abstract for my taste it's like walking into to a singer teacher and they tell you to 'be more open', nobody walking into lessons is going to have any clue what that means because it's just a really general term that isn't touching on anything specific but once you know how to sing, you know what someone means when they say 'be more open', like saying gloss in this case I only know what he's referring to because I have decent knowledge of mixing and whatnot, but it really could refer to so many things from arrangement to individual processing.. like I said, I feel my production is current but maybe that's the root of the disagreement not all the jargon), as well as that being a needed "element" for syncs, publishing, blahblahblah just makes my head explode. That's why I vented in the first place, but like I said obviously it was only going to cause tension. I apologize, and I do appreciate you taking the time I understand it may come off as me being abrasive and disrespectful but I'm just a blunt fellow.

I suppose posting this was good for something though, I didn't realize that you literally had to copy everything from the mix to the production, etc. if that is the case I will not submit another listing to Taxi considering I'm not composing specifically for a Taxi listing..

[Russell Landwehr]

Heya, Kevm,

After some comments I got from here in the forums and from screeners... I had to adapt MY mixing style. The general consensus was that my mixes lacked bottom end. Well... that is the way I like it. But that's not what sells, and it is not what is "current." So I had to put my personal preference aside and mix the way the industry wants to hear it.

If I'm making something just for myself, then to hell with what other people think... but if I want my music to be accepted in the paying-me-for-it realm, then... well... I've gotta conform.

Russell

[Casey H]

Kevm
I don't know this genre well enough to comment about the track. However, if you feel that strongly that there is a problem here with how it was screened, why not give Taxi call and ask to speak to someone?

It is extremely unlikely they would reverse the return decision but they will take some time to review the screener's decision and explain more.

You mentioned that you don't write/produce specifically for listings, you write what you want. Nothing wrong with that. With Taxi, more people have success when they STRONGLY target their submissions to very specific listing criteria (often that means write to listing spec). So it could be possible that Taxi is not for you.

But I would get in touch with them and discuss your concerns. They don't bite and want to hear from members (as long as it's respectful and polite).

Best wishes for a great holiday season,
Casey

[hummingbird]

Kevm has a point. If we're going to say his production is different than the a la's, then specifics are necessary. Otherwise we are not helping much *smiles*

I got interested in this thread after listening to his submitted song. I began to wonder what the screener meant as it sounded good to me. The listing was posted and I spent some time listening to the a la's and Kev's song again, as mentioned above. I wondered if I would be able to hear what was different, if anything. If I could not hear a difference, then I planned to ask a producer friend if he would take the time to listen to an a la and Kev's track and tell me what he heard, so I could learn from the experience. I also planned to tell Kev to contact TAXI (as Casey mentions above) if I couldn't figure it out either by myself or with help. But after some A & B-ing I was satisfied that I could hear a difference and therefore posted my feedback.

In order to give specifics, I am willing to spend the time to listen to the a la's and the returned track again to pinpoint what I hear in a couple places. I have to give a caveat to that though, as I might be able to discern a difference between X and Y, but I may not be able to say what was done to Y to make it that way. I would like to know though, which makes this again, an interesting situation for me as a producer.

I think the important thing to note here for everyone is that if it IS true that there is a difference in production values between the a la's and Kev's track, it doesn't mean one is better than the other. They are just different, and different enough that the screener felt he/she would not be doing their job if they forwarded the track to the music supervisor in this instance.

[andygabrys]

for reference:

http://forums.taxi.com/topic124106.html