People from lables are JERKS!!!

[cameron]

Hey, you're halfway there. I'm told I'm ugly AND my music sucks! Seriously, there are a million and one reasons they can turn you down. You have serious talent and sooner or later some label will believe in you. Aretha Franklin couldn't be considered a classic beauty even in her 20s, but the cream rises to the top.Cam

[Mark Kaufman]

Who's Aretha Franklin? Was she Ben Franklin's wife?jk

[ernstinen]

Hey Fry,I had the same experience with my band awhile ago. We were all set to sign with Atlantic --- (I've said Epic/Columbia before and had a memory lapse! ).THEN, they sent the bigwigs to see a live show, and we just KILLED the crowd that night. Guess what happened?The A&R guys said our KEYBOARDIST was too fat! True story. Nothing about music, the performance, the sound, the stage presence --- just TOO FAT! I couldn't believe it, since we had a unique sound and were really a great band.So I hear ya! We did go the indie route after that, but the labels were just too underpowered to do us any good.Keep at it,Ern

[mazz]

At some point, if you want a record deal, you will probably have to interact with the "suits". Learning how to deal with them and speak their language may be a valuable skill to acquire. Either that, or become so big on your own, that they have to come to you, and then you might be able to call a few shots. If you want to go that route, I suggest you re-read Chris Carter's very generous posts on this thread.It's easier to change the business once you're in it. In the meantime, you might consider developing a more professional persona when dealing with professional peers, such as some folks you come across here on the forum (and other industry folks that apparently lurk here, too). You never know who might hold one of the keys to one of the doors you need to go through.I'm just saying.Mazz

[fry112]

My only problem with Chris is that he wrote an entire post without doing anything other than checking a MySpace page! I got more talent in my rotten XXX tooth than he does in his entire body! Trust.I have a album on sell on every major internet selling sites Itunes,Rhapsody,Amazon,Emusic,ect hold up let me stop right there because now I am sounding just like you ƒº. You are right I am wrong, I will take ur expert advice and stick my thumb up my XXX cluck like a chicken and write a industry album, XXXX I may even get a good dance going called the chicken. You people kill me ƒº I knew calling the industry XXXXXXXs would stir the pot a little. Oh yeah and Chris is website sucks !This is what I learned --- I will begin to brag so let the bragging begin baby!. Airplay/Work list 2009La Talk Radio ( With Robin Mcgee)Thursday, December 18, 2008Played (Dark skin)July 1 New track premier Crucial Music Signed ¡V Pretty Music Recorded ¡§Work you out¡¨ with Vh1 ¡§Miss Rap Supreme Star Byata¡¨WEFUNK RADIO CKUT 90.3 FM (Montreal)www.wefunkradio.com Voice over for Ever Quest Sony OnlineVoice for cinematic video promotionREVOLT RADIO/WordsmithRevolt Radio Syndication: Amalgam Digital, Yoraps.com, Crackaudio.com Theindieplanet.com, Conspiracy Radio (UK), EG Radio Online, Microphonebully.com, The Vibe Source, HipHopdx.com, Raptalk.net, Flavour Radio (UK)3voor12 DUBBEL CHECK"Hollande Nieuwe" (eeuh...New Dutch)BigNoiseRadio.ComGreat Online Hip-Hop Radio StationRadio MortaleAmsterdam RadioNexrezoWeb and station Canal B 94 Mhz Rennes FranceFUSIONOVA021RECORDS radioshowIbiza Sonica 95.2 FMhttp://www.radiopellenera.com/Career mentoring from Carmelo Anthony 2008- current Pending- with Kross over Entertainment. Websites and Magazine SITEShiphopisntdeadmsnotoriouslyaddictivegorillahiphopthebeats9elementshypereportleisurelabhelltownsoljasubnaviwannaF^ckdirtyharrythetapeisnotstickydigitaleargasmtop 10 favorites on TAXI FRENCH SITEShttp://www.sx-tv.comnexrezoGERMAN SITEStotallyflossedoutgermanrhymesITALIAN SITEShttp://www.hotmc.comDUTCH SITESstatemagazinehttp://www.qt-online.nl/hiphopinjesmoelhiphopl ... rijdtkever

[ragani]

Wow, I didn't read Chris' post as antagonistic at all. I thought he made some excellent points. Maybe hard to swallow-- but if people are only finding you through your myspace page, this is something to think about, as they will probably be asking themselves some the same questions that Chris asked-- but they won't be able to read your good posts here about your achievements! I'm just sayin'... No reason to feel upset-- most of the folks here are truly wanting to be helpful. And you've already received a LOT of seriously high compliments here. You just never know who's reading these boards along with us. When someone is googling for more of your information to find out about you (which they'll do if they are considering signing you), they'll find these posts. And if you were a "suit", would you want to sign you after reading these posts? The game ain't over 'til it's over, and everything we do leaves a mark in our world.I'm a successful independent artist too, Fry, so I totally understand your frustrations, where you're coming from, and I can feel your pain of wanting to gain the recognition that you deserve. It's a tough industry, but I'm a firm believer that if you keep getting yourself out there with your live events, building your fan base, and working the media, that it will continue to build, and incredible opportunities will keep coming to you. Pitch pitch pitch-- and keep doing your thing. Make your music so big that they can't ignore you! (And then you'll have to ask yourself, do you really want a major label taking over??)Cheers,Raags

[toddt]

Hey fella I think you're doing good stuff and going the right way, and understand your frustration. But (and I've done alright on the electro/dance artist side of things) Chris was speaking some solid truths, made politely and professionally IMO.It's a fact that if you want to be successful you need others to help you. And they'll only help you either because you're going to make them loadsa money (investors), or because they like you and what you're doing (fans, friends, family).So considering you're probably not going to make the people here on this forum much in the way of cash, if you want their help try not to p!ss them off.Besttt

[guscave]

May 18, 2009, 4:09am, fry112 wrote:??? My only problem with Chris is that he wrote an entire post without doing anything other than checking a MySpace page! I got more talent in my rotten ass tooth than he does in his entire body! Trust.I have a album on sell on every major internet selling sites Itunes,Rhapsody,Amazon,Emusic,ect hold up let me stop right there because now I am sounding just like you ƒº. You are right I am wrong, I will take ur expert advice and stick my thumb up my ass cluck like a chicken and write a industry album, shit I may even get a good dance going called the chicken. You people kill me ƒº I knew calling the industry asshole¡¦s would stir the pot a little. Oh yeah and Chris is website sucks !This is a perfect example of someone not seeing the forest beyond the trees... FRY you just got some great advise from someone who has achieved some very nice success, but yet you respond with a post like this I didn't see anything in Chris's post that said anything derogatory towards you, but rather constructive criticism.That's something you definitely need to to master in this business. Oh yeah, a reminder this is a "business"...

[stephen]

Hey I'm with Chris here too. Great advice. I didn't think his post was to push you down or anything, I think he was trying to stimulate you into doing more to promote yourself. Every artist that has ever signed with a lable is because they did all the ground work till the lables could no longer ignore them. I'm think I have a great voice and potential, in fact, some of the folks here have commented on some of my work, some of us are friends on myspace and reverbnation etc. But I'm still pushing to find new ways to market myself. I recently updated my myspace page and have taken a bit more interest in ensuring that all my gigs are on these pages no matter how big or small. It's a lot of work but it has to be done. I'm not interested in a record deal or anything I just want to develop myself so that I can make great music. I've been told that the majority of A&R folks don't even wear suit most of them are the guys/gals in shorts and flip flops. Hey there are tons of folks here in Trinidad that can't sing as good as I or anything but they are more popular than I and it's because they do what Chris is talking about. So according to the great Bob Marley "who the cap fits let them wear it"

[Mark Kaufman]

May 14, 2009, 10:34am, fry112 wrote:So I have been talking with a very large record label...they seem to be very interested in my music...the person I am talking to said I am way to old...and that I need to loose weight...But the good part is , they told me that if I fix these issues I def need to contact them again!! ha I need some input on this...You asked for input.But you didn't really want input.Now you're angry at people who gave you input, and you're calling them names.