Where is that darn plane?

[davekershaw]

Bingo!

This is interesting!

The Great Plane Robbery. 1940

Special agent Mike Henderson (Jack Holt) has been assigned by an insurance company to protect gangster Joe Colson (Noel Madison). Joe has recently been released from prison, just three months before his life insurance policy, worth half a million dollars, is due to expire.

After Mike arrives at Leavenworth, Kansas on the day of Colson's release, he discovers that two gangsters, Eddie (Paul Fix) and Nick (Harry Cording), are there as well waiting to see Joe. They greet him and then board him on to an airplane. A following Mike also boards the plane. That night, Eddie and Nick storm the cockpit, and force the pilot to land near a lodge where Frankie Toller (Stanley Fields), Joe's successor, awaits. When they arrive, Frankie divulges that he will hold Joe prisoner until Joe reveals the location where his fortune is located. Later, he sees Mike and inducts him into the gang, believing he is one of Joe's old friends.

The airplane's disappearance becomes a worldwide sensation, and the next morning, the gang discovers that an insurance company detective had been a passenger on the missing plane. The gang assumes the person must be salesman Homer Pringle (Hobart Cavanaugh). Mike, managing to convince Frankie that Joe is completely broke, proposes that they force Homer to call the insurance company, with an offer to ransom Joe. Accordingly, Mike and two others go into town, where a fake killing of Homer is staged by Mike shooting him with blanks. Mike and the gang members return to Frankie, while Homer telephones the police. As Frankie prepares to flee, the police arrive, arresting him and the rest of the gang. Afterward, the plane is started again and the passengers finally reach their destination. Meanwhile, Joe is taken into custody for a different offense, assuring Mike that he will live out his policy.

Hmmm...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032555/

[Len911]

Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened - Sir Winston Churchill
A few of them stop and warn others of the obstacle, but then also hurry along lest they too become an obstacle. Even fewer stop to remove the obstacle before again hurrying along catching up to the others hurrying along to an end unknown at least beyond the grave -Serf Len

Dang, I really thought that quote was going somewhere, or so it seemed when I started it.

So if the truth isn't recognized as such, can it actually be the truth? Maybe it's just another road sign.

[2lane]

One thing is becoming more clear...all are obviously lost? I hope they show up just to prove me wrong.....here's to hope.
Personally, I think either the pilots wanted to do this, or they were forced to.
It's just that terrorism doesn't make sense, why not an American plane then? Surely we are more hated by some countries than
China, which most passengers were.
Like I said, something's not passing the smell test!

[Len911]

One thing is becoming more clear...all are obviously lost? I hope they show up just to prove me wrong.....here's to hope.
Personally, I think either the pilots wanted to do this, or they were forced to.
It's just that terrorism doesn't make sense, why not an American plane then? Surely we are more hated by some countries than
China, which most passengers were.
Like I said, something's not passing the smell test!

I'm optimistic. In the sense that I don't believe that the pilots purposefully downed or terrorized the plane. Not so much that everyone is still alive.
The reason some things don't make sense is because whether it's "terrorism" or a school shooting, or whatever, the understanding is never fully realized because it's saturated in bias and viewed with a distorted lens. Objectivity is a clear window, propaganda is a stained glass window. Too many self serving interests to protect.

"They hate us because they hate us", "they hate our freedoms", is all BS.

Most, if not all, of the people who hate the US, are people we have had alliances or friendly relationships with at one time.
Things we have done to them, we would never allow for them to do to us.

It's like the school shootings, yes I'm sure that bullying and free access to guns have something to do with it, but they all seem to be symptoms of a much larger underlying problem. Probably something with the system or order itself that cannot be questioned. So if it can't be questioned objectively, no matter how much money, regulations, forums, procedures, policies are created, it will continue, and no sense will ever be made of anything.

I need to pare down my thoughts on this forum, I've been using more than my share of space.

[2lane]

I agree with you Len, to an extent, especially on the bias part, and that bias is being bought, disseminated, and rehashed by the powers that be.
Keep the sheeple hating the wiser people...works pretty well I think.
I think most of the free countries don't hate us as much, but I do know they think we're extremely silly and stupid in our endeavours.
Maybe Dave will tell us what a good Englishman thinks?

[Casey H]

Maybe Dave will tell us what a good Englishman thinks?

How would Dave know what a good Englishman thinks?

(Sorry, couldn't resist!)

[2lane]

Maybe Dave will tell us what a good Englishman thinks?

How would Dave know what a good Englishman thinks?

(Sorry, couldn't resist!)

Ba da bing, I set you up real nice for that Case!
Sorry Dave, but consider the source my man

[2lane]

They may have found plane wreckage off Australia...they "MAY" have found
they say.

[davekershaw]

I agree with you Len, to an extent, especially on the bias part, and that bias is being bought, disseminated, and rehashed by the powers that be.
Keep the sheeple hating the wiser people...works pretty well I think.
I think most of the free countries don't hate us as much, but I do know they think we're extremely silly and stupid in our endeavours.
Maybe Dave will tell us what a good Englishman thinks?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not taking Casey's bait. He needs some better fishing equipment than that!

Not going to get into the hate thing, except to say that Great Britain (and yes, it is still Great!) gets a lot of stick for things that went on under it's empire. Seems you'll always breed discontent when you occupy and interfere with the running of another country. Sound familiar?
Likewise, we became targets after 9/11 because of our support for the US.
We had thirty years of terrorism from the IRA (occupied countries again). Support from some quarters in the US (which caused resentment of the US in Britain) dried up after 9/11, so at least the end of the IRA (though some won't let go) was one positive thing to come out of that.

Why can't countries just keep to their own boundaries, and take care of their own affairs?

Len... Carry on posting. You say some sensible things. BUT, find your own quotes!!

And finally... maybe Malaysian security is easier to get through than the West's nowadays, and so was an easier target.

[davekershaw]

They may have found plane wreckage off Australia...they "MAY" have found
they say.

Four days ago. Now they've got to re-find it!
Bad news if so, but some kind of relief for the families, if it is the plane.