Publishng Admin Deals and how it affects Film&TV deals

[shellsings]

I know a lot of people who have seen or accidentally or on purpose signed up for the publishing admin deals at tunecore and CD baby.

However, if you do this, then some non-exclusive publishers won't touch your music. I feel that these places are not educating the public well enough and making you think it is a good idea to sign up for these admin services.

Well here is a great non-biased article on the subject. Check it out and lets discuss

http://aristake.com/?post=76

[Kolstad]

Whew, that's a lot to digest. Gotta read it for a few days first, though.

Regarding your claim above, I noticed this disclaimer in the article (I think it was for CD Baby):

(Quote) HOWEVER, you can sign non-exclusive licensing agreements with other companies (I have a couple) if they retitle your songs. Meaning, if there's a licensing company who is super stoked about your album and wants to ACTIVELY pitch it to music supervisors for film/TV/commercials, you can sign an agreement with them and they will change the title of your songs (from "Last Day" to "PH Last Day" or something - PH could stand for Placement House or whatever). This won't interfere with either service. BTW most licensing companies take 50% of the sync fee and of the publishing royalties. (end Quote)

Are you saying that libraries won't touch your music despite of this, Michelle?

GREAT subject!

[TerrellBurt]

I know a lot of people who have seen or accidentally or on purpose signed up for the publishing admin deals at tunecore and CD baby.

However, if you do this, then some non-exclusive publishers won't touch your music. I feel that these places are not educating the public well enough and making you think it is a good idea to sign up for these admin services.

Well here is a great non-biased article on the subject. Check it out and lets discuss

http://aristake.com/?post=76

Didn't read the entire thing yet but thank ypu for posting this. Extremely helpful.

[shellsings]

Whew, that's a lot to digest. Gotta read it for a few days first, though.

Regarding your claim above, I noticed this disclaimer in the article (I think it was for CD Baby):

(Quote) HOWEVER, you can sign non-exclusive licensing agreements with other companies (I have a couple) if they retitle your songs. Meaning, if there's a licensing company who is super stoked about your album and wants to ACTIVELY pitch it to music supervisors for film/TV/commercials, you can sign an agreement with them and they will change the title of your songs (from "Last Day" to "PH Last Day" or something - PH could stand for Placement House or whatever). This won't interfere with either service. BTW most licensing companies take 50% of the sync fee and of the publishing royalties. (end Quote)

Are you saying that libraries won't touch your music despite of this, Michelle?

GREAT subject!

yes, some of these admin places collect You tube royalties as well and some Non-exclusive libraries explicitly state that if you have tracks signed to this type of admin deal they will NOT accept your tracks. I am not saying all non-excl libraries but it is a good idea to check with them first before signing this type of deal with a publishing admin. I have one song signed to an admin publishing deal in Nashville and I am not allowed to pitch anywhere unless it is through them, which sucks and I didn't realize that. Plus you want an administrator you can have a relationship with, not some big corporate place where you may not ever get to talk to . Just be cautious..

[guitargurumike]

Those are some weird deals indeed. I was on one of those with CDBaby (some old albums and some singles), which was great for distribution--my music was everywhere (spotify, iTunes, amazon, etc etc).

But, I did run into a problem when I produced a video for one of the singles. The video was removed from youtube for a copyright violation, and it was a massive pain in the rear to convince everyone that I did indeed produce the music. I never actually cleared it up, and the video was shelved for other reasons.

So, it can be great for distro, but a beaurocratic nightmare if you do something independently with your music.

Michael

[shellsings]

Those are some weird deals indeed. I was on one of those with CDBaby (some old albums and some singles), which was great for distribution--my music was everywhere (spotify, iTunes, amazon, etc etc).

But, I did run into a problem when I produced a video for one of the singles. The video was removed from youtube for a copyright violation, and it was a massive pain in the rear to convince everyone that I did indeed produce the music. I never actually cleared it up, and the video was shelved for other reasons.

So, it can be great for distro, but a beaurocratic nightmare if you do something independently with your music.

Michael

yes true. I have run into that on youtube as well, but it happened that one of my publishers was also collecting my Youtube royalties so I clicked the option to select them as the owner... so much stuff to wade through.. I am trying tho!

[shellsings]

I got this notice from a publisher, so fyi beware...


NOTE: If you have a administration deal with Tunecore, it does not
> allow you to contract with non-exclusive reps who share in publishing
> performance royalties, even though you still own the copyright. This
> means we would not be able to sign your tracks

[Kolstad]

I got this notice from a publisher, so fyi beware...


NOTE: If you have a administration deal with Tunecore, it does not
> allow you to contract with non-exclusive reps who share in publishing
> performance royalties, even though you still own the copyright. This
> means we would not be able to sign your tracks

But that's a good thing, right?