What do you guys think of Band In A Box?

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Re: What do you guys think of Band In A Box?

Postby Len911 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:24 pm

If you simply use what the program gives straight away without tweaking and working with it, then they are, for the most part, correct. I think a person mentioned creating solos and this is a really great application. You can generate multiple versions of a solo, each being a little different (I think the app will go through at least 4 variations) and then you can comp from there if you like.


That's a very good point, but I think that for the most part,the people who use it because they don't wish to do a lot of tweaking an/or using a daw with it, like why people use arranger keyboards. Many daws usually include some sort of basic melodyne
type of program where you can take a mono soloed sampled instrument from the plethora of samples available and create multiple variations. It's really about what expectations a person might want from the program whether it's worth it to them personally or not. So for someone who wants to buy one self contained program as an arrangement solution, it very well may be the best choice, however someone who wished to get intimately involved with sampling, there are plenty of better options
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Re: What do you guys think of Band In A Box?

Postby gabgar » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:39 pm

Kolstad wrote:
Band in a box is implemented in Digitech’s Trio+ pedal,

No, that's not what they were talking about. They were talking about the software from PGMusic, not the Digitech Trio+ pedal.

That's Band Creator from Digitech, not Band-in-a-Box. I noticed a couple of YouTube videos where people say it's like having a band in a box. I think that's where the confusion is.
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Re: What do you guys think of Band In A Box?

Postby Kolstad » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:49 am

There is is no confusion on my side. PG Music provided the styles and tracks to Digitech’s pedal.

BiB does not make much sense as software on a computer to me, but having it in a guitar/keyboard/electric instruments pedal does, because it is intuitive and easy to use, which may or may not work in your workflow.

It is of course not the same product, but they are in the same family of products, which are tools that can help you develop parts and flesh out arrangements, on the fly.

The cool thing about Trio+ is that it will recognize not only guitars and bass, but also keyboards and electric cellos and violins among others. So it is very flexible.

See this example with violin https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kZbxGX_upFk

You are of course free to think otherwise.
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Re: What do you guys think of Band In A Box?

Postby Casey H » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:07 pm

One thing to keep in mind is there are songwriters out there who will never master using a DAW, doing home production, etc. They may not even play an instrument! Some great songwriters (e.g. Jason Blume) do not play an instrument. However, they have good melody and lyric skills. Typically, they rough out a song and have it produced as work for hire elsewhere. It's easy to take for granted that everyone plays instruments, does home recording well, etc.

BIAB offers one possible approach for those folks. Within minutes, you can set key and tempo, style, and chords measure by measure. You get instant rough track to sing against for your rough.

Although I do play acoustic guitar and have a DAW, I often use BIAB for my rough idea backing track, export that back track to a wav file, import the wav into my DAW and sing my song idea against it. And if I need to insert/delete measures, change the key, tempo, or anything else, I can regenerate the backing track in seconds. It's especially useful to me when I'm not sure about how many measures in certain places such as between sections. Or if I need to shift the key a whole bunch to change from male to female singer for my rough. I know most of this can be done with a DAW but BIAB makes it so easy and you have a visual layout of measures with chords in front of you.

Here is a ROUGH of a song I'm working on with Steven Guiles. Steven is singing here over my BIAB track. This will be re-done without the BIAB instruments (a bridge added too) but having the track allowed us to get the basics down. Not saying this is GREAT. Just saying it serves an excellent purpose.
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BIAB is a tool that may be right for some in the right situations. Like everything else, good for some folks, not good for others.

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Re: What do you guys think of Band In A Box?

Postby gabgar » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:37 pm

Kolstad wrote:You are of course free to think otherwise.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthrea ... ber=416160
Yes, your are right, I see that PGMusic did put in the styles in the DigiTech, but still, the OP was talking about the software not the Digitech pedal.
That's what I was conveying to you.

While that Digitech pedal is nice, you really don't see a pedal in a mixdown in a studio, home or professional.

Before I get any "hate" comments.
Check out this youtube site. This guy is incredible with guitar pedals.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnXjoR ... aRYogZ7ayQ

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Re: What do you guys think of Band In A Box?

Postby Kolstad » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:02 am

No hate comments needed at all. Thats not how we roll.

The OP was asking about BiaB, but for fleshing out arrangements and such, so that is why i mentioned the Digitech pedal with BiaB in it.

I use the digitech pedal for exactly that, fleshing out arrangements and tracks, record that to my daw, and use that recording as a temp track.

A temp track is a track that has the ideas for the track/song in it, but needs to be replaced with better recordings.

Working from the temp track, you can record drums with the right style of beat and tempo.
You can record guitars to those new drums, add bass, and a whole lot more.

But what kicks it off is the temp track, and both Band in a box and the digitech pedal is great for that, as Casey and others also report.

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