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Post by TheWildManChris2000 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:04 pm

Ok, my vocals needs a little coaching, but I believe I can DO it!

If my song BABY PUNCH MY FACE can be used in a commercial, film or television, effing AWESOME-Sauce!

Writing another song, "The Telephone", "Looks that KILL", "The City Celebrity and the Village IDIOT".

Met a guy named NATE. He is going to create music for my songs, section by section, via social media until we put them together song by song.

Now, who wants to hear my NEXT song when it comes out?
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Post by TheWildManChris2000 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:01 pm

Well;, what can I say. Instead of writing words on the forums PUT IT INTO A SONG. Case closed.
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Post by TerrellBurt » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:00 pm

Chris, you aren't alone by any means, but negativity won't get you far in this business.

You stole the grand ballroom moment at the Road Rally, hands down! The energy was electric, the crowd was rocking, it was dope! The reality of this business is that true success is a bunch of little wins combined. If you only bank on one moment, you're setting yourself up for failure. When I used to perform live, the crowds would be enthusiastic and into what I was doing, but it never really translated to album sales or social media followers. It was a moment. Nothing more, nothing less.

My encouragement to you would be to write more songs. All of my songs get better the more that I write. As you said, the song is some years old. Music changes so fast. What worked then may not work now in today's climate. Take what you have learned since then and apply it when you sit down to write a new song.

Love you bro. Take care!

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Post by Len911 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:06 pm

Chris,beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it could be argued that anyone actually looked better or younger by having plastic surgery, except for those who have become disfigured by an accident or disease.
As for the troll, that's just a part of fame. I bet you can't find one person in the public eye that hasn't been trolled.
Fans are people who accept you for who and what you are, not for what you wish to be. When you put yourself down, you are insulting your fans.
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Re: If I was good looking doors would not be slamming in my face

Post by Unstar » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:08 pm

Hey Chris,

Being "good looking" might help a little bit but that's only if you have a large amount of very compelling current material. There are tons of very attractive unknown artists. TONS. The vast majority of them will probably have little to moderate success because their looks alone can not overcome the competitiveness of the music industry. Their looks alone can't garner them sustainable fans. Sure some might click the Like button for a pretty / handsome face, but if the constant flow of material isn't there then it's just a fleeting like.

If doors are "slamming in your face', it may not be only because of looks. Doors get slammed on attractive faces as well. I don't know how many complete songs you have available. It seems like you might have a small handful because those are the only ones that are referenced. That number needs to become like 20 ... 200 ... or even 2000. It sounds like you got a really nice reception at the rally for a song, which is pretty awesome. Hopefully that motivated you to write at least 2-4 more compelte tangible songs since early November. Keep writing and completing songs as much as they can be completed. If someone's music is really compelling, a music supervisor or someone looking to acquire songs for charting artists doesn't really care what you look like. :)

Cheers and good luck.

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Post by cosmicdolphin » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:20 pm

Plenty of " not good looking " people making progress, I see them all the time posting here about placements.

I think you have the wrong approach.

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Post by TheWildManChris2000 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:48 pm

I forgot what I was going to say, sorry...
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Post by VanderBoegh » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:38 pm

Hey Chris, I think you were at one of the tables I sat at for Friday's mentor lunch. Hopefully I can share some perspective.

Yes, you had a fun moment at the last pitch panel at the Road Rally. It was great to see that. But in reality, will one song turn you into an overnight sensation? No way. Can't be done. And it doesn't matter if you looked like that dude in your previous post. If he was the face behind your song, it wouldn't happen for him either. Know why? These big-shot producers are looking for people with a massive catalog of songs, to show that they have longevity and the legs for the business. They don't want to work with a one-and-done songwriter. It takes far too much effort to build the relationship, sign paperwork, create trust, and learn to work together. They simply won't put out that kind of effort for someone unless there is a high chance that they'll continue working together for decades to come, on hundreds of songs.

There was a Taxi TV episode once with a country songwriter named Marty Dodson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F9cMGsCmkw) where he talks about how many songs he's written.... and when this video was recorded 2 years ago, Marty had already written something like 6,000 songs. An astronomical number.

Now, look at it from a producer's perspective - whether it be Rob Chiarelli, Ron Harris, or anyone else on that panel..... who would you rather work with: a guy with only a couple of songs, or a guy with six thousand? This is why Marty Dodson has a handful of number 1 country hits. He's made a mountain of music. And no offense to Marty, but he ain't exactly a GQ model.

Speaking of, you're way off-base when it comes to looks and visual aesthetics when it comes to this business. Sure, the big stars of today are by-and-large very attractive. But what about Sia? She's a hit-making machine, and nobody has ever seen what she looks like. That alone tells you that it's the music, not the looks, that makes a hit song.

In terms of writing music for television, or writing songs for other artists to record, looks have absolutely less-than-nothing to do with your ability to find success. I wouldn't call myself the best looking guy on the planet. Check out my Taxi TV videos with Chuck Henry..... we're just a couple of idiots who couldn't take a good picture if our lives depended on it. But, well, look where Chuck is at with his music career.

Okay last thing dude, you really gotta quit with the "poor me" schtick. If a guy like Ron Harris did eventually want to sign "Baby Punch My Face" and record it for you, he'd probably reach out to Michael Laskow and find these forums. What do you think his impression of you would be if he stumbled on to your posts?

You can do this, man. You really can. But you gotta write more songs. Tons of them. And you gotta stop criticizing your looks and chastising yourself and looking for scapegoat reasons as to why you haven't found success yet. Instead of spending hours on self-doubt, spend those hours making new music instead. You'll be amazed by what can happen when you re-channel that energy.

Best of luck to you, Chris.

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Re: If I was good looking doors would not be slamming in my face

Post by TheWildManChris2000 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:57 am

Unstar wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:08 pm
Hey Chris,

Being "good looking" might help a little bit but that's only if you have a large amount of very compelling current material. There are tons of very attractive unknown artists. TONS. The vast majority of them will probably have little to moderate success because their looks alone can not overcome the competitiveness of the music industry. Their looks alone can't garner them sustainable fans. Sure some might click the Like button for a pretty / handsome face, but if the constant flow of material isn't there then it's just a fleeting like.

If doors are "slamming in your face', it may not be only because of looks. Doors get slammed on attractive faces as well. I don't know how many complete songs you have available. It seems like you might have a small handful because those are the only ones that are referenced. That number needs to become like 20 ... 200 ... or even 2000. It sounds like you got a really nice reception at the rally for a song, which is pretty awesome. Hopefully that motivated you to write at least 2-4 more compelte tangible songs since early November. Keep writing and completing songs as much as they can be completed. If someone's music is really compelling, a music supervisor or someone looking to acquire songs for charting artists doesn't really care what you look like. :)

Cheers and good luck.

-vic
Justin Guirini got a wide open door into the music biz because of his hotness. His songs totally sucked so he didn't amount to suat.

Me, my looks are crap. If I had the looks, I'd have doors opening to me and, with BABY PUNCH MY FACE being what it was, I'd be at the negotiating tables with some movers and shakers.

I sell my soul, like Katy Perry did, for an open-door. https://youtu.be/8ZGoixVlrKE

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Re: If I was good looking doors would not be slamming in my face

Post by TheWildManChris2000 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:59 am

cosmicdolphin wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:20 pm
Plenty of " not good looking " people making progress, I see them all the time posting here about placements.

I think you have the wrong approach.
Name me one major artist who is not young, and at least half-hot. oh, I ask this with all respect for you and your post to which I am replying...

In fact, this one white rapper got discovered by a porn star, and I wish I looked more like HE and less like me. I will get you the name and video tomorrow and reedit this.

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