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Re: Guitar as Midi Controller

Post by cosmicdolphin » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:42 am

My Buddy uses the Jam Origin midi guitar plugin which is an all software solution...He says it works well for certain things and is fairly inexpensive compared to hardware solutions

I guess YMMV depending on your guitar and playing style...Probably worth trialling the demo of it

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Re: Guitar as Midi Controller

Post by ResonantTone » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:51 am

davidira wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:32 pm
Thanks for the tips. Maybe I'm chasing something that just isn't out there (yet). I fully intend to continue honing my keyboard skills but just thinking over the long term the advantages of using a guitar as midi controller would be big, especially for replicating other stringed instruments like bass, banjo, ukelele, mandolin, etc.......

Since you have an axe with Piezo's - how do you feel it captures vs using a real accoustic? I've played with piezo's in the store - and they sound pretty genuine. Just curious if you still mic up an acoustic when recording or if you use the piezos?
I never use the piezo's for recording purposes. They are cool.. and very convenient in a live setting, or when blending the piezo's and mags together on the fly (no pun intended)... but for recording, they just don't sit well usually. Acoustic guitars should sound like an acoustic in a room, and it's hard to get the piezo's to do that well. They just sound more like a pickup than a guitar being played to me.
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The fender Squier vintage series are less than $300 and with a decent setup will get you decent tones. It will totally put things over for any rock or indie type track.
I own a squier vintage mod 5 string bass, and I got it used in perfect condition for a ridiculously low price. The quality to price ratio is practically unbeatable in that market.

Also, I think I agree with just about every piece of advice Andy gave. Really good insight on all this!


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Re: Guitar as Midi Controller

Post by Kolstad » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:13 pm

I’ve had the Roland GR20 and an Axon hardware thingy, and used it with both built in 13pin systems and the Roland GK pickups. The Axon tracked better than the Roland, but I sold them when Jamorigin Midiguitar came out, as I found it to track just as good as the hardware setups. Can’t say I use it much, though. Mostly for leadsynths and orchestral instruments from time to time. Not really worth the time chasing it down for me tbh.

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Re: Guitar as Midi Controller

Post by davidira » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:39 pm

Thanks so much for the replies. My takeaways:

Piezo’s won’t replace my accoustic.
Odds are that tracking midi bass won’t be as good as my real bass.
Tracking midi with a guitar will be expensive.

I’m gonna put this on the backburner for now. Willing to spend the $$’s on the right equipment. Godin with a Boss unit is where I’m leaning, although I no longer have delusions of it replacing my acoustic.

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Re: Guitar as Midi Controller

Post by tresero » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:46 pm

I have the Fishman Triple Play, had the Roland (forgot which model).

The Fishman is way, way better, but you still need to be extremely clean or willing to do cleanup. The Roland, well, it basically sucked, although that was years ago so maybe a newer model will be better.

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Re: Guitar as Midi Controller

Post by mojobone » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:55 pm

tresero wrote:
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I have the Fishman Triple Play, had the Roland (forgot which model).

The Fishman is way, way better, but you still need to be extremely clean or willing to do cleanup. The Roland, well, it basically sucked, although that was years ago so maybe a newer model will be better.
THIS. The Fishman deal is pretty convenient, and not too expensive, but if you can dedicate an instrument and mount a 13-pin pickup, you have more options. It's helpful if you approach the guitar either contrapuntally, or more like a horn, because there are a limited number of sampled instruments that are meant to be strummed, most of which can be emulated with the instrument already in your hands.
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