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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by ttully » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:33 am

Hey Anna,

I completely agree with cosmicdolphin Mark.
I have never removed any tracks from any library.
And YES .... I have hundreds of tracks that have been in some libraries for more than ten years and have never been used.
That is just the way it is.
You just write more.....

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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by DesireInspires » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:17 am

ttully wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:33 am
Hey Anna,

I completely agree with cosmicdolphin Mark.
I have never removed any tracks from any library.
And YES .... I have hundreds of tracks that have been in some libraries for more than ten years and have never been used.
That is just the way it is.
You just write more.....

Tim
Say what? You should take those tracks back if you can. 10 years is far too long to let music sit and make no money.

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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by ttully » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:35 am

After you write so many tracks..... it doesn't even matter.
I wouldn't know them if I heard them.
Just keep writing more.

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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by annayarbrough » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:52 am

Thanks all for chiming in, I appreciate your replies! Mixed responses, as expected. Seems to be that old balance of etiquette and patience against practical business sense... Under no illusions that this is a long game, and it's not out of emotional investment that I'm considering pulling tracks.... purely doesn't seem like good business sense to leave them sitting around when there are viable opportunities on the table where I can earn immediately. I do appreciate though that sometimes it makes sense to leave things alone for a while out of letting things pan out, fostering a business relationship, keeping a connection open, etc.

Not making any rash decisions but definitely mulling everything over! Thanks for all of your input, much to think about! :)
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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by annayarbrough » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:55 am

Kolstad wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:52 am
I would just take care of business. A business would understand this. Its just business.
Haha your head is exactly where mine is.... I keep coming back to this. And I totally agree—this is how I would view things as a business owner (which I am, so this makes sense to me). However I think the thing that gives me pause is that not everyone in this business acts professionally :lol: hard to know what you're going to be faced with....
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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by markhimley » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:59 pm

annayarbrough wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:55 am
....not everyone in this business acts professionally :lol: hard to know what you're going to be faced with....
Ding ding ding ding!! Hit the nail on the head with that one. Been seeing that a lot too. That along with the often overlapping worlds of personal relationships and business as you build outside-of-business relationships with people... makes it not so black and white. Never know how a business decision will be taken when it affects a personal relationship.

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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by Kolstad » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:17 am

annayarbrough wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:55 am
Kolstad wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:52 am
I would just take care of business. A business would understand this. Its just business.
Haha your head is exactly where mine is.... I keep coming back to this. And I totally agree—this is how I would view things as a business owner (which I am, so this makes sense to me). However I think the thing that gives me pause is that not everyone in this business acts professionally :lol: hard to know what you're going to be faced with....
I do understand this, but if the case is clear cut that you trust the new company and they can do more for your music, then I dont. But if you are saying that you are equally unsure about both companies, sure. Then you may need more research, and maybe apply some criteria for what you believe is important when working with a company. I use track record, transparency and good communication as my set of evaluation criteria. If the people are nice, this is harder, but if not, no contest for me. I will pick with my heart every time, and sleep well.
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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by cosmicdolphin » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:47 am

markhimley wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:59 pm
annayarbrough wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:55 am
....not everyone in this business acts professionally :lol: hard to know what you're going to be faced with....
Ding ding ding ding!! Hit the nail on the head with that one. Been seeing that a lot too. That along with the often overlapping worlds of personal relationships and business as you build outside-of-business relationships with people... makes it not so black and white. Never know how a business decision will be taken when it affects a personal relationship.
Really ? ? !! :o

I've never come across anything like that. I'll have to up my social game 8-)

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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by DesireInspires » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:27 pm

Friends is friends, but this is business fort and foremost. Any business that holds a personal grudge is neither a good business partner or a good friend.

In short, follow the money!

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Re: How long should I give them...

Post by SubRivers » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:04 pm

My take on this is that old exclusive/non-excl thing -i.e. condition of taking the tracks will probably involve leaving some rights with that publisher due to client pitches/sub publishers /playlists etc.

So, in the short term at least, can you pitch the tracks to a new publisher as exclusive or only semi-excl/non-excl

So it could get a bit messy.

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