Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by CTWF » Thu May 07, 2020 2:03 pm

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Wed May 06, 2020 6:09 pm
Hi Tom,
Yeah..what the guys said already ..Shure 58 is a dynamic voval mic better suited for live performance, it is better to invest in a cardioid condenser mic so it picks up the sound of what ever it is in front of it, I don't know your budget but some good ones for the money are Rhode NT1, Rhode NT5, AKG 414 and checkout some of the Audio-Thecnica AT2020 mics for around $100.00 and many more.

Good luck.
Thanks for the suggestions/brands!

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by Kolstad » Sat May 09, 2020 11:44 pm

CTWF wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:02 pm
cosmicdolphin wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 4:16 pm
Last I heard Tom was still using the computers onboard audio despite me banging on to him about getting a proper audio interface. :roll:
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Thu May 07, 2020 10:25 am
Yeah, thats one thing that wont work.
What I don't understand is why the ASIO would make my USB mikrophone work better? I never had any issue with it skipping or so. The issue is the level and sonic situation of my recording, not anything electronic as far as I can see.

Now, the fact that my DAW crashes all the time if I don't split projects in thirds, that I very well see as related to the soundcard... :o :)
Well, if you get forwards and placements with what you do, I guess its fine.

For me, an external soundcard is important for the audio to digital conversion and digital to audio conversion of signals. If I get better resolution audio, I can do more in mixing, and I can make better desicions when I can hear details in the audio better.

Modern music is very high resolution, so a good soundcard is really important. Its the centerpiece of my home studio, but I guess everyone is different and there is a million ways to do it. The results are what matter.

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by CTWF » Sun May 10, 2020 3:40 pm

Kolstad wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 11:44 pm
Well, if you get forwards and placements with what you do, I guess its fine.
Forwards seldom, placements none...
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For me, an external soundcard is important for the audio to digital conversion and digital to audio conversion of signals. If I get better resolution audio, I can do more in mixing, and I can make better desicions when I can hear details in the audio better.
I do not record much, but the audio resolution when listening is a point I was not quite aware of, as I feel my audio has okay detail, but I possibly just don't know what sounds great. :roll: I would possibly first have to get good monitors to hear a difference. I'll get there one day! :)

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by GBall » Thu May 21, 2020 9:01 pm

Two things for what ever it is worth: - I''m not sure the boxy sound is a proximity effect but a room sound. I have the sound of my wife's office or other small room, especially if its of the near cube dimensions that a lot of small bedrooms are in my mind as I say that. (9x10 or something). Proximity effect I would describe as sounding more bassy that boxy. It could be exactly what you say, but If its room sound then a better condenser could actually sound worse...

Secondly to reply to the Asio / sound card question: Built in sound card have filters to cut off both low and high frequencies. Think ear buds in its frequency response - no matter the quality of your headphones or monitors. Because you can't hear them, its very easy to mix a song with shrill highs that would make the paint peel, or bass that the most die hard fan with a thumper in the trunk can't stand. Or... no bass or highs at all, because you know, you have no way of knowing.

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by CTWF » Fri May 22, 2020 10:17 am

GBall wrote:
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Okay, I'm leaving now so you can talk bad about me.
I won't do that - thanks for the reply and insights. I recently recorded more and there definitely seem to be less issues the larger the (bed/living) room is. The frequency cut-off with onboard soundcards I did not know. Still waiting on my ASIO interface - China production lacking behind. But I run the sound for my new AKG 812 headphones first through a Yamaha keyboard synth and that sounds pretty good to me.

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Fri May 22, 2020 4:15 pm

CTWF wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 10:17 am
GBall wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 9:01 pm
Okay, I'm leaving now so you can talk bad about me.
I won't do that - thanks for the reply and insights. I recently recorded more and there definitely seem to be less issues the larger the (bed/living) room is. The frequency cut-off with onboard soundcards I did not know. Still waiting on my ASIO interface - China production lacking behind. But I run the sound for my new AKG 812 headphones first through a Yamaha keyboard synth and that sounds pretty good to me.

Tom
Tom what did you order? Everything I ever ordered came like next day or the day after ?

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by CTWF » Fri May 22, 2020 9:30 pm

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Tom what did you order? Everything I ever ordered came like next day or the day after ?
Audient iD4: https://www.thomann.de/de/audient_id4.htm

The dealer - Thomann - is very reputable and my AKG headphones came the next day. For the interface they had said 2-3 weeks delivery before I ordered, so seems okay to me. They say June 1st now, so is in time.

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Sat May 23, 2020 4:25 am

CTWF wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 9:30 pm
cosmicdolphin wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 4:15 pm
Tom what did you order? Everything I ever ordered came like next day or the day after ?
Audient iD4: https://www.thomann.de/de/audient_id4.htm

The dealer - Thomann - is very reputable and my AKG headphones came the next day. For the interface they had said 2-3 weeks delivery before I ordered, so seems okay to me. They say June 1st now, so is in time.

Tom
Sweet, well I can confirm it works well with Cakewalk, I've used Thomann quite a few times over the years - they always seem pretty good. Think I bought my ID4 elsewhere though

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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by charlie2 » Sun May 24, 2020 1:24 pm

Sometimes we get lost in the details and fail to see the big picture.

I'm sure many great hits were recorded w the sm58 and many duds were recorded w the high end Mikes..
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Re: Is a SHURE SM58 okay?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Mon May 25, 2020 11:00 am

charlie2 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 1:24 pm
Sometimes we get lost in the details and fail to see the big picture.
Sometimes we need the right brush to paint the picture

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