Thought I was on point what do you think?

[sol1]

Hey Sol

Decent track, I will say though as someone who likes Muse and has quote a few of their songs on my Spotify playlist that it's not the vibe I'm getting overall.

The intro actually reminds me of Blue Savannah by Erasure, and when the singing came in it brought Keane to mind ( although they don't use guitars ) ...both bands I like BTW and have seen live.

I think the non-Muse issue started right from the off when you called it " Let The Healing Begin " as that is not a typical lyric that they would use. Their songs are often about corruption and paranoia..that darker sort of stuff..I don't feel like they are into the healing thing or would sing anything quite as poppy as this. Naturally you've produced music that reflects the lyrics so it doesn't have that punchy aggressive almost theatrical vibe I would associate with Muse or that darker more dangerous feel.

I so think it's a good track though, so keep it for something else - It may benefit from a bit more beef, it came across a little skinny like I was missing the bottom octave stuff so it comes over a bit lightweight. might just be a mastering thing.

Hope that helps, I enjoyed it but agree its off target.

Mark

HI Mark,
Keane. lol after you said it i heard it a little On the low end, you talking kick sub, or more of the the bass sub you're missing? Thanks for the input.

sol

[sol1]

Was this for the listing for the Chinese beverage company? They had Muse/Kasabian/DFA1979/Subways as reference tracks.

The vocals are pretty good. You have a good voice for this type of music.

I never listened to Muse, I always thought of them as Radiohead wannabees, so I skipped them. I liked the reference track though. The lyric does maybe seem a bit on the lighter side, maybe not edgy enough. All of the reference tracks except Muse are pretty dirty in vocal sound and lyrical mood.

My brother and I had a go at this listing just for fun. Didn't get the vocals down good enough to submit. My brother wrote an awesome guitar hook and cool lyrics but every time we tried to sing it, it turned into a freaking Kiss song. No good. So then we switched gears and started over and went in the Muse direction and ended up with a Radiohead type song which is pretty cool. Just couldn't get our vocals over the bar.


I think you'll be able to use this song for something, no sweat. And again, nice vocals.

Yup that's the one! yeah maybe a should of focused more one the other examples. i'll never know. lol sorry you couldn't get yours done in time. thats cool you get to work with your brother! Hopefully you can take the cool stuff you got and use for another one.
good luck!
sol

[sol1]

Thanks for your feed back thus far. side bar how do i respond to your responses individually? lol

You can either use the quote function or just address people by names/screennames. It's probably a bit of a pain to quote different people in the same post maybe, I don't know-- heck I don't think anybody will mind if you make multiple posts. It's your thread, my dude.

thanks Ted!

[sol1]

Maybe if Ted & Bro wrote a great track you guys should collab and get Sol to lay down a vocal on it

Not a bad idea. Probably on the particular track(s) we were working on, we're gonna maybe scrap them for parts, so to speak. But going forward in the future, my brother and I were discussing the possibility of looking for vocalists--maybe a few different ones, depending on style-- I'll have to look into how it works with sending tracks via remote collaborations, what the process and etiquette entails. If anybody knows of a good definitive resource --something like a primer on doing that, it would be awesome.

It's kind of a blow to the ego to say to yourself-- "man, no matter how many books on singing I've read or how many gallons of throat-coat tea I've chugged, I'm just not going to clear the bar on a vocal listing." But it's probably better to admit it and work on one's strengths.

I mean, hell I can sing! It just doesn't sound good. haha.

the tee shirt. lol Ted, do you have a link to listen some of you guys stuff?

[Ted]

Sol, I listened to the forwards for this listing last night... eh. TBH I thought they were kinda generic (sorry if anyone forwarded is reading this, haha--best of luck) Most of them were performed/ produced in a workman-like fashion, but not very interesting. I liked your track better than anything forwarded, in most respects. Similar to what Mark said in relation to Muse, the title and lyrics were a little on the soft and maybe fluffy side for me. I think had you gone with something edgier-- both in theme and instrumentation, you'd have been on the right track for sure. I see your name on the forwards blog a lot, so I know you're getting a good amount of forwards.

This listing was the first track my brother and I did together. So we don't have anything else I can link to right now. And this track is just too rough to post as is.

Sometimes a song just has to be lived-in for a while. Now that I've listened to the demo a bunch of times and I've sung along with it, I have a much better idea of how to sing it in the future.

[cosmicdolphin]

Sol, I listened to the forwards for this listing last night... eh. TBH I thought they were kinda generic

Yeah I just had a quick squizz through - a lot of very generic sounding American Rock band stuff...a couple stood out to me as sounding more like they'd caught the Muse vibe I was expecting

" Chaos & Control " was good..and I liked " It Is Now "

[Cameloide]

I feel your pain. I don't know what the other references were aside from Muse, but with that as the target, I think your composition (and performances for the most part) was more fitting than at least 1/3 of the forwards. Though the forwards were better than a lot of the forwards I've seen for other briefs. But a couple of the forwards were just downright cheesy/generic compositions that I can't imagine actually getting used for a $40,000 brief. I could be wrong about this but I doubt the title had much to do with the rejection considering some of the other names (Masochist Love Machine?), though I get that your theme might not be something Muse would actually write about it.

With that being said, in general, I think most of the forwards had a fuller low end and a more creative/explosive/dynamic/exciting mix than yours...with the illusive developmental arc and more mix tricks (fairy dust) sprinkled in. Like a couple of guys have already mentioned the kick/snare gets a little buried when the chorus kicks in and falls a little short on impact. The little breakdown sections (i.e. at 1:36) seem to languish a bit too. You could probably find a way to make that a little more interesting.

But all in all you put in a solid effort. Nice singing and I really like the harmonies. I think with a little more fulfilling low end and a more exciting/creative mix to give it a stronger developmental arc you would be more on point than most of the forwards. Maybe another brief with similar references will come back around.