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Re: Another Return...thoughts on feedback

Post by cosmicdolphin » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:08 am

Cameloide wrote:
Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:34 pm
I scanned through their catalog to see what the quality bar was like & submitted 2 more songs that we just knew were perfect for sync. And the response was “unfortunately they’re not up to our catalogue’s standards”. Which, considering the amount of subpar stuff in their catalogue, was humorous and again a bit confusing & disheartening. We then submitted one of those songs to a taxi brief & got it forwarded & the taxi feedback was “Good positive energy and catchy hook. Very strong sync potential. Track is really solid as is. Good driving energy, sound and hook. Solid lyrics for sync.“ So, who the hell knows, which is my overall point.
Some of them are mega picky about what they accept, I've had almost as much rejected by one Library as they've accepted. Yet those rejected tracks got signed up by other Libraries and have generated almost as many placements as the stuff that got accepted :lol:

So who knows ?

But it seems like you're generally in the ballpark and your luck will average itself out over time, plus you'll naturally improve if you make a lot of music constantly.
Cameloide wrote:
Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:34 pm
Considering the ones that got forwarded sounded like Ez Drummer playing to rock tracks, I’m gonna have to disagree & say that the real drums in our track is one of the things setting it apart from the fake stuff. I know it’s common to use fake drums in a lot of genres but in the rock world almost nobody releases stuff done with ez drummer, unless they call them “demos”. Sure now they may trigger sounds to beef up the acoustic tones, but using ez drummer instead of a real drummer is a good way to signal that you’re not really in a rock band. Btw, the drummer was using Bonham’s signature snare & a big ass 24” kick drum...
If you're making instrumental cues I hate to say it but it's probably not worth the time and effort to use live drums, even when they get in placed they don't really earn that much and then you have to split the backend.

EzDrummer etc is so pervasive in sync as you're expected to be a one stop shop and get things out quickly. When you're on a deadline and the library wants a different snare sound or asks you to add another edit point with a pickup into the next section it quickly becomes unworkable unless you're dealing with midi.
Cameloide wrote:
Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:34 pm
In the rock world almost nobody releases stuff done with ez drummer, unless they call them “demos”. Sure now they may trigger sounds to beef up the acoustic tones, but using ez drummer instead of a real drummer is a good way to signal that you’re not really in a rock band. Btw, the drummer was using Bonham’s signature snare & a big ass 24” kick drum...
It's not the Rock World though, I bet most of the cues on TV are not live drums that have been recorded in someone's studio. Superior drummer actually sounds better than most live drum recordings I've been sent to mix.

Songs are a different matter, sure if you want to sound like a rock band , then I agree if you have a great drummer and a great drum room sound and you can vibe off each other then it will be more authentic but even the big boys trigger samples.

But nobody is going to care what snare drum you used or how big the kick is for instrumental cues. You could mic the inside of a empty box of Frosties for all they care, then replace it with a Slate Drums as long as the end result is good enough. It's more about production and having a workflow that allows you to churn out a good amount of material.

Cameloide wrote:
Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:34 pm
But anyways, appreciate the feedback Mark. I expected you to undress me a little more, you must be in a generous Christmas spirit kind of mood.
Haha, must be the JD I got from Santa.

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