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using WFH professionals & release documents

Post by funsongs » Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:14 am

Greetings -
No doubt this question's been asked - just to refresh, I'm asking it here:

Is it required to get WFH release documentation from 'hired instrument guns' from sites like airgigs.com, Fiverr.com, Fiddletrax.com?
Seems those who subscribe and use those 'exclusively-contracted' players are, or should be, simply by the nature and format of those companies' agreements; (ed. covered).

For example: you're writing for a Country song listing, and it is desired to "gotta have a fiddle in the band" - so you hire one from one of those sites.
Will the TAXI client required a release from that player who is in a self-employed/subcontractor role?

In advance; thanks.
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Re: using WFH professionals & release documents

Post by cosmicdolphin » Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:03 am

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Post by minoruchan » Wed Jun 05, 2024 7:30 pm

funsongs wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:14 am
Greetings -
No doubt this question's been asked - just to refresh, I'm asking it here:

Is it required to get WFH release documentation from 'hired instrument guns' from sites like airgigs.com, Fiverr.com, Fiddletrax.com?
Seems those who subscribe and use those 'exclusively-contracted' players are, or should be, simply by the nature and format of those companies' agreements; (ed. covered).

For example: you're writing for a Country song listing, and it is desired to "gotta have a fiddle in the band" - so you hire one from one of those sites.
Will the TAXI client required a release from that player who is in a self-employed/subcontractor role?

In advance; thanks.
Peter
Hi Peter,

Some clients ask for this document, but others don't. In my case, when I work for a library in LA, I always get the players to sign a "Work For Hire" document. So far I've not been asked to submit this document for work in the UK.
However, in my case, I sometimes invite players to my studio, and I've never used Fiveer, so I don't know, but if I were to hire them, I would get them to sign it

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Re: using WFH professionals & release documents

Post by Casey H » Wed Jun 05, 2024 7:39 pm

Yes, ALWAYS get a signed release from each individual musician. Even if a particular library doesn't ask for the particular document, you need it as protection. More and more of the libraries I work with do ask for copies.

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Post by funsongs » Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:04 pm

Casey H wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 7:39 pm
Yes, ALWAYS get a signed release from each individual musician. Even if a particular library doesn't ask for the particular document, you need it as protection. More and more of the libraries I work with do ask for copies.

Best,
Casey
If/when you've done that, through one of those sub-contractor sites, have they charged you an additional fee for the signed release doc?
Did YOU provide the form to them?
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Re: using WFH professionals & release documents

Post by Casey H » Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:48 am

funsongs wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:04 pm
Casey H wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 7:39 pm
Yes, ALWAYS get a signed release from each individual musician. Even if a particular library doesn't ask for the particular document, you need it as protection. More and more of the libraries I work with do ask for copies.

Best,
Casey
If/when you've done that, through one of those sub-contractor sites, have they charged you an additional fee for the signed release doc?
Did YOU provide the form to them?
No, no extra charge with services like you mention. However, each individual you hire can have different prices & requirements.
Yes. Even if they have their own form, I prefer they use mine.

I work with one Nashville Studio that charges a sizable fee to WFH release. But I've never heard of that (so far) on sites like fiverr.

Check your email.

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Post by superkons » Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:07 am

I too reinforce the "yes" comments.
Also, I have been providing my own WFH form (it is actually Casey's :) ) to all the players I have hired at no additional cost (in my case, at least)
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Re: using WFH professionals & release documents

Post by funsongs » Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:44 am

Casey H wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:48 am
funsongs wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:04 pm
Casey H wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2024 7:39 pm
Yes, ALWAYS get a signed release from each individual musician. Even if a particular library doesn't ask for the particular document, you need it as protection. More and more of the libraries I work with do ask for copies.

Best,
Casey
If/when you've done that, through one of those sub-contractor sites, have they charged you an additional fee for the signed release doc?
Did YOU provide the form to them?
No, no extra charge with services like you mention. However, each individual you hire can have different prices & requirements.
Yes. Even if they have their own form, I prefer they use mine.

I work with one Nashville Studio that charges a sizable fee to WFH release. But I've never heard of that (so far) on sites like fiverr.

Check your email.

Best,
:D Casey
Thanks for that. I have my own, simple 1-page WFH doc, that I've used for solo hires NOT contracted to or exclusively through those sites.
So - hopefully that will work for those hires as well.
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Re: using WFH professionals & release documents

Post by funsongs » Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:45 am

superkons wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:07 am
I too reinforce the "yes" comments.
Also, I have been providing my own WFH form (it is actually Casey's :) ) to all the players I have hired at no additional cost (in my case, at least)
Thanks for chiming in, Marco.
Cheers.
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Re: using WFH professionals & release documents

Post by VanderBoegh » Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:21 am

Yo PETER!! It's definitely a "CYA" situation with these (cover your @$$). I've never been asked for WFH documents for anything other than vocalists though, but still, it's better to have them and not need them, than to need them and have to scramble.

~~Matt

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