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To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by horacejesse » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:47 am

If you won the mega lottery, would you do it--have yourself cryogenistionically frozen? It makes sense for someone with enough money and an incurable disease. But what about you? You have an incurable disease called aging. There may be a cure for that someday.But you will have to weigh the fact that thawing you out would kill you with today's technology. They don't know how to do it. You will be gambling that a rendering process will be discovered at some time in the future. You will be gambling there will even be a future.Are you going? To some people it is even a moral question. They feel you were given one life to live with your contemporaries and to want more is...well...immoral, I guess. That does not even enter into my picture. To me it is not related to morality. Hell, I don't mind being twenty or thirty again and knowing what I know now.Me, I'm going. Give me a hit song or two, and old Horace will put on a big chill. I finally decided what I want to do when I grow up--get younger. Maybe some of your music will still be around in the 23rd century or whenever. Bye.

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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by ciskokidd » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:04 am

Ah, that is the question sir Hamlet.Taking any of the moral implications out of the equation, the idea of cryogenics poses some rather interesting dillemmas.1. Will the process of bringing you back actually bring YOU back. That starts a whole new question on the existence of the soul. do YOU exist as a whole in your cells or in your mind somewhere?2. Assuming that the current YOU can be brought back like starting up an old computer, will the hard drive still work the same or is there some disconnect that happens at the cellular level when you "DIE"?3. Will they be able to reverse the aging process so that you can be 25 again or will 85 be the new 25? 4. Culture shock! Can you adapt to a new world? What if the human race has changed in some dramatic way. Let's say that "the arts - music" have been outlawed and you have to become a "productive" member of this new society. What if you had to be just another worker bee?5. Generational Gap! Just think of how little we have in common with our new gernerations. Can you adapt to a change in the way people perceive things and new tastes in music and art and fashion? I often look back on previous generations and think, wow I could never have lived in that time! I imagine the look forward might be similar.Just some food for thought.All the best,Cisco

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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by edteja » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:31 am

I'm against freezing on principle. I won't even live in Wisconsin. I want to be warm thanks. Now if you find a way to keep me alive by parking my body on a tropical island, we can talk.
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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by ciskokidd » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:33 am

Quote:I'm against freezing on principle. I won't even live in Wisconsin. I want to be warm thanks. Now if you find a way to keep me alive by parking my body on a tropical island, we can talk.LOL

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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by mazz » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:42 am

Quote: I was ready for a discussion on freezing audio tracks as CPU and RAM start to max out. Me too!
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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by paults » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:55 am

It was around 20 degrees when I loaded the car after last night's gig. This freezing stuff is entirely overrated

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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by ciskokidd » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:58 am

Quote: I was ready for a discussion on freezing audio tracks as CPU and RAM start to max out. Yeah Michael,But what are the moral implications of freezing tracks? Personally, I have a serious problem with messing with the soul of the CPU!!

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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by hummingbird » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:44 am

I thought this was an (oohhh, the phone just rang and an automated voice told me I'd just won a Caribbean cruise & all I had to do was press 9 to accept (ya ya, duh)) interesting hook but I'd like to see some sort of song form in the lyric.Given that it's snowing today on the balmy south coast, and I miss Santa Barbara's 82 degrees, I have to say I'm against freezing.
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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by audiorayne » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:01 am

This thread should have been called "Deep Thoughts, by HoraceJesse." Were you actually freezing some tracks and took a little tangent there? Cisco's reply was also particularly brilliant and thought provoking.By the way, I think I'm going to go for it. -AR

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Re: To Freeze Or Not To Freeze

Post by drshush » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:04 pm

So I'm figuring there's two options.A: Cryogenic action.B: Skydiving naked on a unicycle whilst juggling and fire-breathing, then at about 1000ft you set off the industrial grade fire-works and go out in a blaze of spectacular glory!!!! That'd be popular on youtube.Another thing to think of-By the time technology advances to the stage that we can be brought back (maybe? without severe damage) There's a likelihood that the companies/organizations are out of business - with potentially no remaining family members/decendants to claim you - you're now industrial waste.Lets say they ARE in business. Lets say theres no major retstructurization (its a word) of the economy or that they manage to survive them, the people that stuck you in there are all goners or frozen themselves. Who's to claim responsibility when you get out? Do you think it'll be a utopia or is it more likely these people unfreeze you as part of thier 9-5... to give you your posessions and chuck you out the door?What's happened to humanity by then?Are there still different races or is there a monoculture?What happens if you rock out, get a bar code lasered on on and sent off to work in a mandatory designated workplace?Earth might not be as pretty anymore. There's no oil reserves left and the earth has seen a huge depression or two.OR MAYBE YOU GET CYBERNETIC ARMS AND JETPACKS!That would be sweet.Interesting to see what developments there would be in the music industry... Perhaps they'll create a computer that composes largely better than we do.eek!I prefer the cyber arms thanks. Oh and if technology goes on like it is, theres a potential for devices that can literally change the molecular structure of almost anything...meaning you could put in noodle box cartons and get out a guitar string, by knocking off, or adding electrons. They already do it to make petrol in China...and some other place... I forget. They're called 'crackers.'Videogames would be AWESOME.

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