How to know if you are re-submitting to the same

[slap]

..." I think they do new CD's... which is good for us! And as we all know, we never can medicate, eurghhh.. meditate enough

[slideboardouts]

Dec 7, 2008, 10:36am, slap wrote:But I sure hate to learn eventually that my exact same cue has been re-forwarded to the same people three months down the road. Time is a terrible thing to waste I'll add one more thing that I don't think has been mentioned on this thread yet...Sometimes a piece of music that was rejected by a publisher/plugger/library will be accepted by the exact same publisher/plugger/library a few months to a year down the road. I have heard of this happening countless of times from library instrumental tracks to full-on hit songs. So, if the same piece gets forwarded to the same company within a years time, there is a chance that that second forward gets you the deal that the first did not.I do see your point though.-Steve

[silvercord]

Hey Steve..i think that's good news..Liam also told me something similarto that...due to me stressin' out that i was forwarded to a company that had previously rejected a direct submission to them in the past.here's to 2nd (and 3rd) chances! or here's to synchronicity!

[zingstone]

Quote:But if I was concerned about it, I'd call/email TAXI customer service and I'm sure they'd help me out.Ah, so there is a database. Or at least a filing cabinet.Why not make it user searchable? (Not the filing cabinet).Imagine the joy of characteristically shambolic musicians being able to view all their previous submissions before deciding whether or not to have another $5 flutter.

[anne]

I could see where this would be a handy thing to have; a history of your submissions, so you can see what you've sent it to through Taxi already.Log in to your hosting account, go to the second link down labeled "Submission History". That should help, at least if you submitted online using your taxi page rather than via mail.I'm not sure how far back it will display, but I know mine shows back to my first submission in 5/2007HTH

[slap]

Yeah, my submission history is far from complete too Only goes back to september '07 ...Insofar as this quote from Slideboardouts: ..."Sometimes a piece of music that was rejected by a publisher/plugger/library will be accepted by the exact same publisher/plugger/library a few months to a year down the road..",I'm sure if has happened before, maybe the plugger thinks:" Now this a great piece of music, so catchy, I swear I have heard it before, let's sign it.. "

[aubreyz]

There have been a number of times, in working face to face with clients, that a piece of music they thought didn't fit the first time they thought was perfect the second time around-- often not even remembering they rejected it before. Forwards suffer from the same humanity issues. People's opinions vary day to day. If I have a track strong enough to pass the screeners and get forwarded to an opportunity, but nothing comes of it, there could be a number of reasons for that. Maybe the guy/gal was having a bad day when they listened the first time. Do I want another shot at being heard again??? Absolutely. I want my name in front of those who are signing music-- there's also that "familiarity" thing, where hearing something down the road that you've heard before brings that "I've heard this before" moment.So, I don't really understand why this is an issue. Please forward me again and again -- even to the same company. Though I think Dave makes a strong point about having new stuff to submit.Taxi does make it clear when NOT to submit the same material for a re-run listing. Other than that, I'll gladly pay 5 bucks to be on a new cd sent to the same company as before. Who knows, it's even possible that more than one person from the listing party listens to the forwards. More opportunities... not less. That's why I'm a member anyway.Aub

[sgs4u]

Dec 7, 2008, 7:29pm, slideboardouts wrote:I'll add one more thing that I don't think has been mentioned on this thread yet...Sometimes a piece of music that was rejected by a publisher/plugger/library will be accepted by the exact same publisher/plugger/library a few months to a year down the road. I have heard of this happening countless of times from library instrumental tracks to full-on hit songs. So, if the same piece gets forwarded to the same company within a years time, there is a chance that that second forward gets you the deal that the first did not.I do see your point though.-SteveGuys named Steve are smart. If you have confidence in a track, submitting it to the same person/company has another advantage no one has mentioned yet. Each time someone listens to the same piece of music, it sinks further into their subconscious. It becomes easier to accept it as a potentially usable piece. It gains more of a "Hit" status, with every successive listen. So if you have an opportunity to submit the same (stellar) track to the same person, on different occasions, DO IT. The accumulative effect of someone remembering your tune even slightly, actually gives you an extra advantage over your competition. Of course if you are submitting a track that isn't well-suited to the listing, you are also branding your song negatively, at least with that screener.

[zingstone]

Quote:Each time someone listens to the same piece of music, it sinks further into their subconscious.This is why James Blunt must be stopped.Quote:So, I don't really understand why this is an issue.Well, I guess if other people are voicing concerns about wasting time and money, it must be an issue to them, Aub.But good for you (and Taxi) for seeing a five buck gamble on a listener’s proclivity as an “opportunity”.

[slotter]

Dec 8, 2008, 8:45am, aubreyz wrote:There have been a number of times, in working face to face with clients, that a piece of music they thought didn't fit the first time they thought was perfect the second time around-- often not even remembering they rejected it before. Forwards suffer from the same humanity issues. People's opinions vary day to day. If I have a track strong enough to pass the screeners and get forwarded to an opportunity, but nothing comes of it, there could be a number of reasons for that. Maybe the guy/gal was having a bad day when they listened the first time. Do I want another shot at being heard again??? Absolutely. I want my name in front of those who are signing music-- there's also that "familiarity" thing, where hearing something down the road that you've heard before brings that "I've heard this before" moment.So, I don't really understand why this is an issue. Please forward me again and again -- even to the same company. Though I think Dave makes a strong point about having new stuff to submit.Taxi does make it clear when NOT to submit the same material for a re-run listing. Other than that, I'll gladly pay 5 bucks to be on a new cd sent to the same company as before. Who knows, it's even possible that more than one person from the listing party listens to the forwards. More opportunities... not less. That's why I'm a member anyway.Aubyeh got to agree with that. Just thinking about the taxi screeners for example.. I've submitted the same 3 tracks for almost identical listings on Taxi.. (not for the same company though).. the first time they were refused, the second time they were forwarded.. just goes to show that it depends on a whole lot of factors. Who listens to it, the mood that person is in at the time, what he/she had for breakfast... and a second forward to the same company could just catch em on a good day and get signed. Maybe the first time it was a toss up bewteen your piece and someone elses.. and they chose the other one.. the 2nd time that other track might not be there to choose from and yours gets signed.. you just never know.. I say keep getting forwaded baby!